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Postby SekoETC » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:13 pm

Split these posts into their own thread. Added a quote of this post too, as it seemed to start everything but belonged in the other thread. -Hermitess
SekoETC wrote:Since it's been four days and an hour (and a half), Gahak Jordan aka Jordan aka Jordan the Wanderer aka Gee-Jay aka "the guy who's trying to kill everybody" is dead. For all you wannabe revolutionists out there, never assume that people would not be awake on a certain hour just because they haven't been on your previous attacks. Never assume that you are immortal. Never forget that a person can hit past your shield even if you had 0% tiredness, after which you'll be an easy target to the next attacker. Never stop to stare at a person's description in the middle of an attack when copy-paste to notepad has been invented. Always assume that if one person is awake then there'll be others. Always plan ahead. Make sure people know why you're doing stuff. I guess that's all.


Everyone Gahak wanted to kill personally died out of natural causes, that's rather ironic. He was just fighting anonymous people who happened to be in Olip forest or Mirovash at a wrong time. I wonder how many of the people he hit were actually Stone Knights.
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Postby Yo_Yo » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:02 am

Well in Olip forest, I think a good 90%.

Never did figure out why he was so angry at all of us, even when he didn't know us and we did nothing wrong. But until my toon figures out for himself, he'll still fear Jordan like a boogey man in the dark :)
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Postby Joshuamonkey » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:06 pm

Oh, so that was your character. :P
Hummer told my character (Adam the Wanderer) what you did. I was actually coming to fight because someone told me some pirate was attacking people. The stone knights have been nice to me personally but I think that's because we're polite.
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Postby SekoETC » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:14 pm

It totally hurt when Qafkat or one of his buddies said something along the lines "You dare to call yourself a Wanderer? They kicked you out of their ranks, you're nothing but an outcast." (I can't remember which day it was because I didn't keep a copy of Jordan's journals outside the game.) But I saw Hummer later on in Mirovash and I was considering saying something to him or writing a letter to him, trying to convert him to my side. It would've been a great power source if I had managed to get the Wanderers turn against the Stone Knights. Originally Jordan joined the Wanderers because he needed help building his boat, but then he felt like he needed to give something back. And he cared for his brothers even though he'd gotten used to being a lone wolf.
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Postby Talapus » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:20 pm

Hmm, I wonder if Jordan's dislike of the Stone Knights arose out of his initial confrontation with Qafkat. It is old history, and now that both of them are dead, I have no problem outlining what happened (although it is probably somewhat tainted, being from my perspective).

It started in Blojt Forest (east), about 25 years ago I believe. A young woman was talking, and Jordan was apparently slightly upset that she did not introduce herself to him. He spoke up and demanded that she show deference to his age, and demanded that she name herself. Unknown to him, she was a Stone Knight (newly joined) and there were two other Knights in town, of which Qafkat was the eldest. Qafkat called him out, demanding a public apology. Jordan did not apologize, and immediately left town. Qafkat was going to ride after him and kill Jordan for his insolence, but his Stone Knight sister did not want Qafkat to kill over the incident. So instead, Qafkat gave Hummer a message to pass on to Jordan. He was forever more forbidden to pass through the Stone Knight forest or Mirovash on pain of death. Hummer said that he would not only pass on the message, but that Jordan was henceforth no longer part of the Wanderers.

And from there, Qafkat heard nothing for many years. Some time later (perhaps 7 or 8 years ago), Jordan appeared in Mirovash. Jordan didn't seem to remember that he was forbidden to visit or even pass through Mirovash. But this was one of the few grudges that Qafkat ever held, and so he easily recognized Jordan as the man was trying to set up some trades. Qafkat struk Jordan once and declared that any person trading Jordan, sheltering him, or providing any aid to him in Mirovash was to be deemed an enemy of the Stone Knights (and therefore killed). Qafkat could easily have drug him to the jail by himself, but instead told Jordan that he could flee if he did nothing else in Mirovash and did not attack anyone. Instead of taking him up on this offer, he attacked Qafkat and sped off in his boat. Furious, Qafkat set off around the lake on his motorcycle dropping off notices that Jordan had attacked a Stone Knight, and was to be killed on sight. He circled the lake quickly and waited on the other side, hoping to catch Jordan there. Unfortunately for him, he never found Jordan and was forced to return to Mirovash.

That is all I ever heard of Jordan. I know nothing of his attacks on other people, but I am most interested. If any of you have accounts and don't feel comfortable posting them, would you perhaps consider sending me a PM? Qafkat was one of my most enjoyable characters, and I am very curious about such events and various people's opinions of him.
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Postby Joshuamonkey » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:12 pm

Yeah...the one thing I don't like about the stone knights is that they force you to be polite, kill if you aren't...kind of ironic, as well as hypocritical.

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Postby Elros » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:52 am

Yeah I have had several encounters with Stone Knights before, and they always seem nice enough until you visit their homelands. Then they are quite ruthless and impatient, and do not hesitate to punish visitors for the slightest of reasons. I do not care much for them.
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Postby Oasis » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:02 am

Stop spreading nasty, visious rumours! The Stone Knights are a very kind people, respectful to a fault when it's given in return. :D
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Postby SekoETC » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:05 am

Talapus' story is mostly correct but it's missing some parts. Jordan had been inside the Waystation ever since arriving to the forest, and didn't know pretty much anyone at the location, so when he stepped out he asked for introductions in general. The first person to do something after that is Brooke Moonwhisper, this young Stone Knight who just whispers something to her friend, most likely continuing a conversation that had been going on long before this trivial interruption. Jordan waits for several minutes, no, this woman has no intentions of responding to his request and most likely everyone else would continue to ignore him as well unless he speaks up. So he decides to make an example out of her, saying that it's impolite to ignore your elders. But naturally Stone Knights are above such limitations.

Qafkat and some other guy were busy defending the girl's honor and telling Jordan to apologize or they would resort to violence. To which Jordan replied by taking off his tunic and turning his back saying something like strike me if you must but I will not apologize. He also dropped his bone spear to show them that he would not strike back if they really wanted to settle the thing with blood. But the Wanderers were begging the Stone Knights not to hit him, telling them Jordan must have lost his mind. Meanwhile a newspawn thief stole Jordan's bone spear and tunic from the ground. Um, fun... In the end Jordan whispered an apology to Brooke so that the rest of the Wanderers would not get in trouble over him and left. I'm not sure if he spoke to Hummer after this so he never got the message.

When Jordan arrived to Mirovash he had no idea that it was Stone Knight territory, he was just trying to trade for limestone. Qafkat hit him when he was digging for limestone, and two other people followed his example. One of them was Finntan (sp?) and one some young guy who said he doesn't know what's going on but since the name of the game seems to be hitting this guy (Jordan) he might as well join along. After this gang brutality which by the way happened while I was offline Jordan was over halfway dead and rather shocked. He naturally struck the people back but couldn't deal any damage, I think he even missed one. Then he left, fearing for his life. Once he got away from the Stone Knight territories he managed to farm for enough healing foods to get back to full health.

Further along the coast, I don't remember the name of the town, Finntan and his girlfriend happened to dock there in his darter while I was sleeping and they attacked Jordan, but could not do any damage (or if they did then it was very little). When Jordan woke up he naturally attacked them back, could not get through Finntan's shield but the girl was an awkward fighter so she took about 30 points damage. I got a bit carried away (bloodlust) and so Jordan told Finntan that if he can't hurt him directly then he wouldn't hesitate to get at him by making the girl suffer. Then Jordan undocked (he was sailing a longboat at the time so he wasn't going very fast) and the darter followed him for a couple of days but after that they gave up the chase. What I heard from Finntan's player was that the girlfriend's player got very upset by the threat and that's why they couldn't continue. Well, at least it served it's purpose but I still feel bad about scaring a player when I only meant to scare the character. When you're totally submerged in character then you don't stop to think that there might be a sensitive person behind a character who tries to stab you when you're sleeping.
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Postby sanchez » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:30 pm

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Postby SekoETC » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:22 pm

So wait, was that guy in Mirovash Qafkat? Since I'd only named him as "some stone knight" or something. I remember attacking that guy repeatedly as he slept and also on my last attack I noticed his description said he looks very hungry, so if I would have dragged him on board, he most likely would have died before waking up. I only realized this after undocking but once I went back, he was no longer there. Anyway if it was Qafkat then I'd be very surprised that I didn't name him since I remember hearing the name ingame.

Also Finntan couldn't have been much stronger than Jordan since I remember Jordan being much stronger than average, but it's well possible that Finntan is in the higher end of the category.
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Postby Elros » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:02 pm

After reading all of these posts it even more confirms my dislike for Stone Knights as a player. However I do have one character(out of the 7 that have had encounters with them) who doesn't think ill of them. So, as a player it doesn't matter if I dislike them because that character doesn't.

Anyways, I wish they could be nicer and more understanding like their neighbours the Silver Knights. :wink:
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Postby SekoETC » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:12 pm

Yeah, originally Gahak wasn't a physical fighter, he was skinny and not very tall so he used his sharp tongue as a weapon rather than a sword. But then skills were added and suddenly he turned out to be both strong and an expert fighter. Also he was expert in over half of his skills in total, which only went to boost his self-image of being better than average Joes.

I'm just looking at the death report and on 1981, Jordan lost (and healed) a total of 93 points health in five attacks, two people missed him altogether and he hit all of them back (although the last two hits were just 0 damage thanks to tiredness) but the bottom line is he hit seven people in a row without missing. 89 damage total, one of them a 45 point hit on a person who must be a very strong expert because that person had done 52 damage on him once. Makes you feel like a god. Although I as a player felt embarrassed when he started making 2 and 0 point hits, that taught me not to go beyond three or four attacks per round because there's a great chance of doing little to no damage and appearing weak.
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Postby 15454 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:53 pm

Oasis wrote:Stop spreading nasty, visious rumours! The Stone Knights are a very kind people, respectful to a fault when it's given in return. :D


Oh really? I believe one of my charracters joined them just to be killed by them years later. Nice job there :wink:

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