Zombies!! PART 2!

[Racetyme]

Fine. I've been reluctant to do this for since the beginning, I don't like being marked for death any more than the rest of you. I'm the one with the bazooka around here. That leaves deadboy wide open.

Vote deadboy

[Sparkle]

unvote saztronic

vote deadboy

Here is why. This is what you stated earlier deadboy:

I mean, what's to stop two people claiming to be the priest? We couldn't know the difference between them straight away, and the zombies could just kill the one of them they know isn't their own.

That is what you have done. I wish Racetyme would have thought about that before revealing himself. Now I know your counterpart will finish him. What I think we should do is protect HF and Racetyme. AOM claims he is only a soldier. I would rather see one of us soldiers go before someone that can actually help us.

[deadboy]

*He thinks* Interesting gamble Racetyme, I'm trying to think this through a little...

So then, let's start with the claim, that means that I've a 1/2 chance of being lynched today, along with you having a 1/2 chance as well. Let's say it's you that's lynched today. That'd our Priest will die tonight, because I'm fairly certain my logic with Pie is secure, and that HF has no protection. That'd leave... five soldiers against two zombies. The next day Pie would be lynched, then I'd probably die, leaving four soldiers, one zombie. If I'm lynched, that's leave four soldiers, three zombies tommorow, then three soldiers, two zombies, and yeah, we'd be doomed with those odds and two of the zombies working together, but in that case I reckon you must be the necro

Then there's you being zombie, that leaves one of you two *He nods towards Bowser and Nankaroth* Being in the clear, as our power role, either medic or coroner. If one of you two could speak up as to who you are it'll help distinguish that

*He then nods* Right, well then, soldiers, we need to find a way to beat the odds here. Although I know Racetyme is now a zombie, you of course don't, I still could be. If you try to pick one of us then, we've only a 1/2 chance of beating those sons of bitches. So, I reckon we should see which of Bowser and Nankaroth claims the power role, and then figure out which of those two is a zombie, before we end today, because then even if Racetyme's gamble works he doesn't have the benefit of one last hidden zombie to screw us over

So then *He nods to Bowser and Nankaroth* Go on then you two, who's the medic or coroner?

[AoM]

unvote saztronic

vote deadboy

Here is why. This is what you stated earlier deadboy:

I mean, what's to stop two people claiming to be the priest? We couldn't know the difference between them straight away, and the zombies could just kill the one of them they know isn't their own.

That is what you have done. I wish Racetyme would have thought about that before revealing himself. Now I know your counterpart will finish him. What I think we should do is protect HF and Racetyme. AOM claims he is only a soldier. I would rather see one of us soldiers go before someone that can actually help us.

I think that we wait for the GOOD/EVIL revelation upon death before we go and order who defends who, but in any event, a revealed hunter role (which is what the bazooka guy is) is essentially useless because the Zombies will never let them survive to the end game no matter what. Even if you saved him tonight, you wouldn't be able to save him tomorrow.

But other than that, your logic is fine and I don't have a problem with it.

*Reading up on the actual reveals now...*

[AoM]

*He thinks* Interesting gamble Racetyme, I'm trying to think this through a little...

So then, let's start with the claim, that means that I've a 1/2 chance of being lynched today, along with you having a 1/2 chance as well. Let's say it's you that's lynched today. That'd our Priest will die tonight, because I'm fairly certain my logic with Pie is secure, and that HF has no protection. That'd leave... five soldiers against two zombies. The next day Pie would be lynched, then I'd probably die, leaving four soldiers, one zombie. If I'm lynched, that's leave four soldiers, three zombies tommorow, then three soldiers, two zombies, and yeah, we'd be doomed with those odds and two of the zombies working together, but in that case I reckon you must be the necro.

Or traitor.

Then there's you being zombie, that leaves one of you two *He nods towards Bowser and Nankaroth* Being in the clear, as our power role, either medic or coroner. If one of you two could speak up as to who you are it'll help distinguish that.

This really is turning into my all reveal plan. By virtue of two Bazooka claimants, either we're going to kill the evil today or lynch them for certain tomorrow.

Formerly HF should NOT view the survivor of Racetyme/deadboy today since this lynch will clear/condemn the survivor anyways. I suggest a view of Either Bowser of Nakranoth personally.

Pie should still be protecting for HF. If Pie is the traitor or necro, then he has no way of communicating to the Zombies that he is in fact not a hero protecting HF. The zombies can't afford at this point to not get a power role killed tonight (meaning coroner/doc/seer) so they risk a lot by going after HF.

If Pie is a Zombie, then HF will die, but we will know two out of the three evils from today's exchange. Not a bad trade off at all for our Seer's life.

*He then nods* Right, well then, soldiers, we need to find a way to beat the odds here. Although I know Racetyme is now a zombie, you of course don't, I still could be. If you try to pick one of us then, we've only a 1/2 chance of beating those sons of bitches. So, I reckon we should see which of Bowser and Nankaroth claims the power role, and then figure out which of those two is a zombie, before we end today, because then even if Racetyme's gamble works he doesn't have the benefit of one last hidden zombie to screw us over

So then *He nods to Bowser and Nankaroth* Go on then you two, who's the medic or coroner?

No. Leave this reveal for tomorrow. If the doc or coroner is among them, they should keep quiet. The Doc should protect me if we lynch wrong today. If we lynch correctly, he should flip a coin to decide who to protect: me or bazooka guy. The Doc's ability is great because it can cause a No-Kill, which if done twice in a game buy's us an extra day. That would be huge.

So no. Don't reveal Doc. Don't reveal Coroner. Stay hidden for now.

[deadboy]

*He nods* Your logic is right in saying that they shouldn't claim medic or coroner tonight, but I wish you didn't say it, I was hoping one of them would claim medic, because since the coroner left us a note and is still alive that means the medic can't still be alive, it was probably definitely mtm, and so we'd know that person would be a zombie, but, hell, never mind, that ships sailed

Alright then AoM, you reckon we should take the chance and lynch one of us two?

[Nakranoth]

*swings his rifle from Racetyme to Deadboy*

unvote Racetyme
vote Deadboy

You Honestly sound like you're trying to get dangerous information out in the open before your inevitable demise. And as far as lynching one of you two... thats a fifty/fifty shot. Between everyone else, our chances are much Much worse.

[AoM]

*He nods* Your logic is right in saying that they shouldn't claim medic or coroner tonight, but I wish you didn't say it, I was hoping one of them would claim medic, because since the coroner left us a note and is still alive that means the medic can't still be alive, it was probably definitely mtm, and so we'd know that person would be a zombie, but, hell, never mind, that ships sailed

Alright then AoM, you reckon we should take the chance and lynch one of us two?

Wait, what???

How are you at all certain that the medic is/was mtm21? We have one medic AND one coroner at the beginning of the game. We know at least that the coroner is still alive. We don't know anything about the medic. For all we know, one of them is the medic and one of them is the coroner. We must assume that the medic is still alive.

At the very least, Pie, a claimed hero, must protect HF tonight. That is the only certain thing that must be done. The medic, if he/she is still alive, must protect me or make a choice between me and the bazooka-guy, if we lynch correctly tonight...

Which brings me to tonight's lynch. Yes, it must definitely be either deadboy or Racetyme who gets lynched today. We must test these claims. One of the two of you MUST be evil, so even if we're wrong, we'll learn something definite. And losing a hunter (bazooka) isn't the worst sacrifice to make anyways.

I would like to see where everyone places their vote, being either on Racetyme or deadboy.

Mod: May we please have an up to date, official vote tally?

[N-Aldwitch]

This is ridiculous, everyone is voting and unvoting. Votes are now reset.

It is also highly unfair for one particular side (either good or evil) as everyone will start to swing one way and the game sticks that way.

In exactly five days from this post, there will be a lynch. This day has gone on for too long and already breaches many typical forum mafia game rules due to the length of the game. (mainly my fault for not seeing that this will unbalance the game).

[Bowser]

I would like to see where everyone places their vote, being either on Racetyme or deadboy.

Hate to not be a sheep and follow orders, but Im keeping my eye on saztronic.

vote saztronic

Read into it all you want, I'm just going with my gut.

[Racetyme]

For all the reasons mentioned above,

Vote deadboy

We have to assume our coroner is still alive, we have no reason to suspect otherwise.

[deadboy]

*He nods* Yeah, that's what I'm saying, our coroner -is- alive, 'cos he left us a note. If oneof those two has to be a zombie and one has to be a power role, and we know the coroner is still alive, that means that mtm had to be the medic 'cos if there arn't then both of them would have to be a power role

[AoM]

Vote deadboy

(OOC: There's nothing wrong about long lynch days. It doesn't unbalance the game, it makes the game what it should be. At mafiascum.net, a site dedicated to these games, it's the only way they play. A single game "day" can take up to two weeks sometimes. And voting and unvoting is all a part of the territory. It would be an infinitely harder game for GOOD if there were no unvoting.

However, I agree with you setting a lynch deadline. I'd been expecting that you would.)

[AoM]

I would like to see where everyone places their vote, being either on Racetyme or deadboy.

Hate to not be a sheep and follow orders, but Im keeping my eye on saztronic.

vote saztronic

Read into it all you want, I'm just going with my gut.

I will be reading into it very much, Bowser, because it's a terrible red flag. We know that one of Racetyme and deadboy is evil. Failure to commit to either side of the argument shows a hesitation to get involved in it at all. A vote on saztronic today is a throwaway vote, meaningless because there's no way that saz will be lynched today.

Meaningless voting is a bad tactic for a villager to take, but makes sense if you're a zombie and don't want to be targeted tomorrow for having jumped on the wrong bandwagon.

I will be watching you tomorrow, if I'm still alive.

[deadboy]

*He gives a quick wave of his hand* Well, looks like the voting's all turning my way, so you guys're gonna be done a Motha F* with a big-ass bazooka *He heaves his bazooka onto his shoulder and does what can only be described as posing with it* Anyway, let's just even things out a little, make it two votes to one, see if we might be able to get ourselves clear of a zombie today after all, even if I'm as good asdead in the next coupla' days anyway

Vote Racetyme