Low income housing for mining camps

[Meh]

This is a non-programming suggestion for the resource dept....

Instead of having the hematite drill let the character select how much to drill, set it to a fixed number.

This number of grams will be roughly the equivelant of a person plus all they can carry.

The project would take about a cantr year at current drilling rates for a lone operator.

The result of the drilling will produce two things
1) a large amount of hematite
2) A new type of building called a mine shaft (may want the character to be able to name the shaft).

The mineshaft will be a liveable space roughly the size of a bike.

Mining towns may want to consider always locking these holes as madmen could hide in them and terrorize people.

Maybe making them larger and take more time to build would help that.

I'm not sure if it will work but we can do some testing on it if there is interest.

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I did some other projections on being able to drag the drill into the shaft. However to prevent people from dragging it onto the largest ship and sending it to a non-hematite area would require making the drill to be so heavy as to have 44 healthy people to drag it into the shaft which would have to be quite large to hold 44 people and this hugh drill. So that is a dead end until some coding changes are done.

[The Industriallist]

Wouldn't this mean you couldn't get anything from the drill without putting in 20 person-days of work?

Also, how do you lock an open pit?

[Meh]

It's more of a tunnel. How do we lock a stone door opening today? (don't think about that too much it will make your brain hurt)

And yes it would make drilling more of a planned thing. A big heaping pile of debris that needs moved by several people or several trips. Mining towns should be ugly.

Just a suggestion.

[berserk9779]

It is good!!! you must pay price for living in a town with the great advantage of having iron.
I think that this pits should be reversible, like, they can be closed or filled. and if people don't do it at a certain number of pits there is no more space for harvesting and one of the other available resorces desappears.

[nitefyre]

Hmph what about INSTEAD, it takes 1.5kg of wood (support columns) to make a small mine shaft[5 days], and 5kg for a normal one[15 days]. The small one will be able to make 20 grams of iron a day, but the large one will make 50 grams of iron. Just becuz there's no iron on the surface, no reason it is not undeground!

[berserk9779]

This sounds logical, how do you mine for iron if you do noy have a mine?
But this will also make it easier to monopolize iron

[new.vogue.nightmare]

So? It'll mean that only people willing to invest their resources will be able to produce iron, rather than anyone who comes around being able to just grab a bunch and then go off to do other things. Then finally people will have to actually interact with other chars to get any significant amount of iron.

[Spectrus_Wolfus]

and that'll mean the people who are mining it will have to trade there hematite for food with the people who are smelting it into iron who will have to trade the iron for food and other good's so as to keep smelting iron at full efficiency and the people they swap with will have to trade for the food to get more iron and other things on there rounds and actually forcing people to make communites and get organised ???
what a horrible idea what types of societies work together sounds like a great idea to me

[new.vogue.nightmare]

Well, y'see, maybe then there will be a reason for some kind of currency standard to form. This problem worked itself out IRL, so it shouldn't be too hard to even itself out in Cantr...the thing is, not to try figuring out the entire economy, but to take care of your own part and let the other things work themselves out. So the miners would only be concerned with selling their minings and purchasing food and tools--it doesn't matter how, and the refineries would be concerned with getting raw materials and food, and selling their product, and the farmers would be concerned only with producing and selling food. And of course that's where everything falls apart because food's so plentiful there's no reason to buy it from anyone. *le sigh*

[Spectrus_Wolfus]

indeed unless some of the idea's that have been brought up in the forum about farming actually taking time to get a big yeild then it'd bring in farmer's. farmer's would of course trade there food for tool's and item's to make better tool's and luxuries for themselves. government's could then put a small tax on all level's of industry to support thew town guards and work forces and we'd be just like most area's of the world now i guess. some government's would be greedy. some would be like co-op's where everything is shared by everyone. town's would have to trade with other town's to get the needed rsources. silly idea's ain't they

[Camino]

It is good!!! you must pay price for living in a town with the great advantage of having iron.
I think that this pits should be reversible, like, they can be closed or filled. and if people don't do it at a certain number of pits there is no more space for harvesting and one of the other available resorces desappears.

A negative effect for increasing the gathering of a resource! It could be the same with all resources, for instance you could do certain actions like prevent animals from getting at a food resource, which would give you a boost assuming you were farming it in a proper way on a large scale but then you're side effect is that the animals ate the weeds which although you don't actually need to see are there - perhaps some report saying you lost this much resource due to weeds - or the animals waste acts as a growing boost for the product.

Which leads on to the need to wash food before eating it otherwise you'll get an infection. Phew haven't had one of those rambling idea frenzies for a while.

[Pie]

Wow. This is one OLD TOPIC!!! LETS REVIVE IT!!

[optional]Allright, I think we should be able to make shafts, of course, But also, Lower the amount of Hematite you can get on the ground. Becous i said so.[/optional]

Of course, i think that a mine shaft would be 2kgs for a small shaft 10kgs for a normal shaft, and 30kgs for a larg shaft and[stupid] 100000KGS FOR A BIG HUMOUNGOUS SHAFT!!![/stupid]

[programming]Yea, so, lets take gathering rates right now, lable that property A!!!!! now, with a small shaft, times that rate by 1.2!!!!! With a normal shaft, 1.5!!!! With a larg shaft, 2!!!!![/programming]

[resoning]The reson for the low amount of gathering rates in mine shafts (and on the serfice0is to make shure that monopoly's don't happen.[resoning]

[Sho]

I don't really see anything new in this last post. Topic necromancy should be reserved for cases where there is actually something to be added to the topic.

[Pie]

[tramslation frome last post]BUMP![/tramslation frome last post]

[Sho]

Translation of my previous post:

That's a silly, pointless bump. I don't like bumps. At least call them what they are, instead of posting loads of pointless garbage.