History from different perspectives (The American Revolution

[Racetyme]

south america belongs to spain, North america belongs to the indians

Ridiculous double standard. The world belongs to its conquerors, as harsh as that is.

[Schme]

I suppose it depends on your moral code, brother, but if you ask me that's crap. If I walk into your place, pull a piece on you and have my friends cart away all your shit, does that make it mine?

[Pie]

None of what you're saying has any basis, Pie, except for who used to be around. Her Royal Majesty is around TODAY, and that's what's up.

I'm not sure what you mean, I was just being Ironic, saying who I think should oun everything, and by saying that I was saying that saying things like what I said souldn't be said becaus It's presumtious and full of bigioutry, 'r somthin.

[formerly known as hf]

south america belongs to spain, North america belongs to the indians

Australia belongs to the australians, becaus of there cool hats and accents.

I'm hoping pie learnt sarcasm and irony. In which case, hooray.

Otherwise I'm just gonna have to go and get my bludgeoning stick...

[Racetyme]

I suppose it depends on your moral code, brother, but if you ask me that's crap. If I walk into your place, pull a piece on you and have my friends cart away all your shit, does that make it mine?

Yes. Until I get it back, its yours.

[Schme]

Too late. I sold it. And I knocked out some of your teeth and sexually assaulted your girlfriend.

You see what I'm getting at, man?


If I'm wrong, me and some Redmen are coming over to your place to "Take back their land." Fair, right? That's how you want to live?


Yeah, sure man. You could get the cops to put some guys in jail, you could meet us at the door with a shotgun, but law of the jungle is really shit, man. Been there. Not that romantic.

[Schme]

I'm not sure what you mean, I was just being Ironic, saying who I think should oun everything, and by saying that I was saying that saying things like what I said souldn't be said becaus It's presumtious and full of bigioutry, 'r somthin.

There are no "The Mongols", there are no "The Arabs". There is, however, a House of Windsor.

You were being sarcastic. One can't really be "Ironic" without doing something. That's not really what it means.

Not worry about it. Everyone gets it confused. Everyone.

[Chris Johnson]

...There is, however, a House of Windsor.

bah ... modern political correctness ... "Wettin" or "Saxe-Coburg and Gotha" , either are more acceptable , and as Queen , why should she have a surname anyway

[Schme]

Modern? That happened some time ago, to my recollection.

Being changing it, I mean. But like you say, there's no harm in reffering to her as Her Royal Highness. But what if you have to introduce her to the Queen of Morroco or something?

[Racetyme]

Schme, you know it doesn't work like that for politics and geography. You are taking a macro argument and applying a micro example, it doesn't work.

[Pie]

I don't know what this "winsdor" is, but there were mongols, and they were a hord. and they conquerd a bunch of asia. unleas youre just nitpicking and saying that they have a more specific name.

and maby instead of refurring to the 6-14th century arabs that controlled much of the middle east as "the arabs" perhaps i should refurr to them as some weird arab saying that is translated roughly into "the land of the throne of gold"?

And to furthur tell you off to how much you were nitpicking, i will restate my irony statement differently. I was just showing everyone how ironic that last statement was.

[Schme]

Schme, you know it doesn't work like that for politics and geography. You are taking a macro argument and applying a micro example, it doesn't work.

And Geography? What the hell are you talking about, guy?

No, that’s exactly how it works in politics. What’s this Micro Macro shit, man? What’re you talking about?

A “Macro Argument”? What?

Check, man, it’s all the same. You’re saying that might makes right. If that’s you’re moral code, then fine, that’s that. But you realize that means the folks in the Extermination Camps had it coming. Those little kids getting rounded up by the Lord’s Resistance Army deserve what they get. Especially those little girls. If they can’t stop men with AK’s from raping them, tough shit.

Rock on, Nietzsche.

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Any gas in the truck, Stonechild? We’re going to visit a guy.











It wasn't ironic, Pie, it was sarcastic.

Pie, Mongols and Arabs are races, not a political entities. It was never "The Arabs" or "The Whites" (which don't exist) or the whatever the fuck you like. "The Arabs" were never a team. It's a race. There have been tonnes of Arab rulers, and most Arabs are ruled by Arabs, and most Arabs have been ruled by Arabs, but there were never any "The Arabs".

[Pie]

I DISAGREE!!!

The whole mongol race was under the power of gengis kahn. well maby not all of them, but most of them anyway. AND I was saying that those places belongs to the citizens of the "land of the throne of gold" and mongolia, and those citizens were generally called "arabs" and "mongols".

but lets not talk grammer. I HATE THAT STUFF!!!

[Schme]

Ghenghis Khan had a lot of Mongols backing him. He wasn't the Mongols. And no, there is an Arab race. Not "Arab citizens." Citizens can be Arab, but and I'm sure there was some Arabs about in the Empire, but that means nothing. There's Arabs in Canada too. They aren't "The Arabs".


And the Golden Throne got busted up from within, but it's own, and they're all dead, or scattered, whereas the House of Windsor has a clear line of succesion.

[Pie]

oh ok.

I need to brush up on my history...

But I still hold onto my "mongolians citizen" thing.