Families; revisted and simplified

[Nick]

The subject of whether we should have children in the game seems to come up periodically, and the two major opposing points seem to be as follows:

Pro - Many forms of society depend on lineage, and it is one of the biggest aspects of society. For an ideal society simulator, children are a no brainer.

Con - I know I don't want to play a baby, and neither do a lot of people. Also, I might not care who my parents are, and wouldn't want to depend on them to take care of me.

So right now, when somebody is spawned, it selects two parents at random and uses their genes to generate the genes of this new Cantrian.

So here's the suggestion; when the newspawn is spawned, announce the parents.

Some societies will make a big deal, that a baby was had and who were the two people lucky enough to have it. Some societies won't give a gram of dung. It will allow for the benefits of the family aspect of society, without forcing people to act a certain way.

It's not the human reproductive cycle, obviously. But I think it's a solution that simulates it closely enough without shaking up things too bad.

Maybe later, a different solution can be implemented once somebody thinks of a better idea. Until then, I'd really like to see this in play. Really simple to implement, I'm sure.

[Zanthos]

The only drawback I see with that if if a society does make a big deal about lineage, and a husband and wife who are togeather are in charge. Then a cantrian is spawned with the husband and some random chick's genes.

[Nick]

The only drawback I see with that if if a society does make a big deal about lineage, and a husband and wife who are togeather are in charge. Then a cantrian is spawned with the husband and some random chick's genes.

Well, with the sex element removed it becomes less of a social issue. If this is just how reproduction happens; and this is nothing new, it already is how it happens, I wouldn't think it would shake up society too much.

edit: it also should probably noted there's no saying that there will be one male and one female parent.

[kinvoya]

OHHHHHH! This is juicy! It could lead to soooo much drama and trauma!

Please make it so, please make it so!!!!!!

EDIT: I love that it leaves out the sex part and creates heirs in a truely unique Cantrian way. And it will randomly pair up improbable people with a connection and all the possibilities for possessiveness, rebellion, etc. (so many etceteras that my head is exploding!!).

This is just exactly what the game needs. Home run, Nickolito!

[DylPickle]

This is so much simpler. I've thought about this for a little, a while back, but left my thoughts with the same opinion as Zanthos.

If it's true that the two selected are not dependent on sex, then it'd be a cool little feature to have for now, especialy if it's already how it works.

Last minute addition: It might also keep newspawns awake, and decrease the amount of characters that spawn sleeping. New players would automaticaly have a mentor of sorts, maybe.

[west]

Genius!

[DELGRAD]

Do it do it do it. I do like this, but there must be 1 male and 1 female involved. There could 100 women, but there has to be at least one man and vise versa.

edit: it also should probably noted there's no saying that there will be one male and one female parent.

No no no no no no NO
Ok if there is more than one woman or more than one man, but there must be at least one man and at least one woman. Other wise no spawn there.


EDIT: I say no now. See my following posts for the reason.

[Nick]

Do it do it do it. I do like this, but there must be 1 male and 1 female involved. There could 100 women, but there has to be at least one man and vise versa.

I personally like the idea of the asexuality this solution would have. A town of two men can currently spawn a child. No need to change that.

[DELGRAD]

Do it do it do it. I do like this, but there must be 1 male and 1 female involved. There could 100 women, but there has to be at least one man and vise versa.

I personally like the idea of the asexuality this solution would have. A town of two men can currently spawn a child. No need to change that.

Your mom is Fred your dad is Nick.
Your mom is Mary your dad is Jane.
Sorry, I can not have that.

If this was to happen I would never create a new character.

[Nick]

Your parents are Fred and Nick.

In the Cantr world, we could hate each other and have children anyway. And we can't prevent it.

And besides; if you don't care, ignore it. As I said, that's one of the best parts. It doesn't have to matter to you.

[DELGRAD]

Your parents are Fred and Nick.

In the Cantr world, we could hate each other and have children anyway. And we can't prevent it.

And besides; if you don't care, ignore it. As I said, that's one of the best parts. It doesn't have to matter to you.

It matters to me OOC. That is one thing that I can not keep out of my characters. Two men or two momen can not concieve. If a spawn spawns in a town now that has only two characters of the same sex it does not say as much.

[Chris Johnson]

I like this.

I believe Sanchez mentioned a variation of this idea in Chat which overcomes some peoples dislike for Cantrian asexual reproduction (which already exists anyway) , and that was just to name one of the two parents selected at random - "Your Father is x" or "Your Mother is y" .

It avoids the problem of drawing attention to characters in relationships spawning chars out of that relationship as well .

[Torkess_theCommie]

Cantr Science!

Man + Man = Spawn

Woman + Woman = Spawn

Woman + Man = Spawn

Man + Woman = Spawn

[Chris Johnson]

Which is true as long as the parents speak the same language - interlanguage reproduction is currently not possible. You also should mention that its possible for

Cantrian of 20 years 0 days + Cantrian of 20 years 0 days = Spawn of 20 years 0 days

[DELGRAD]

Only a man and a woman can hava a child unless by some miraculous Cantrian way a man can have a vagina and a woman a penis. Which is still not right.

OH, BTW just so you know, I am not some christian nut job. I am atheist.

I know that I have no say in how cantr works, but I must say that if this is to happen it can only happen only when a man and a woman are present in a town, and the names of the parents are one woman and one man.