Smaller font for events

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Smaller font for events

Postby Averus Wolfmaster » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:14 pm

We were speaking about this in polish subforum for auite a long time. Opinions were positive and I think this is very good idea myself.

Problem:
In bigger cities with building, magazines, resources and private actions we can see a big... mess in the events 'place'( 'zdarzenia' in polish ). You want to see whats new in your charcters life and you have to dig trough tons of whispering and travels between the main area and some buildings.
Im sure everybody has this problem and noone likes it, besides, the raparts are full of crap this way. I personally dont like bgi cities because of that, its annoying and probably this is something what can block the increase of population and EVEN brake the development of the cities!

My idea:
Smaller font for such crap, the same way as event connected with you are. What do you think about this?

PS Sorry for my english, I guess its not perfect.
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Postby SekoETC » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:55 pm

I don't think it would hurt anyone if mostly trivial events were one or two points smaller. Maybe it could be toggled on and off by the player.

Events by priority:

High
- the you are hungry message
- whispers to you and by you
- attacks on people
- lock breaking
- public talking
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Low
- dragging
- picking up items and resources
- entering/leaving buildings, arriving to/leaving from a town
- docking
- whispers between other people
- hunting
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Postby deadboy » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:19 pm

I disagree about dragging, I think that should be on the first list, but, for this suggetion to work, I don't think that there should be set lists. People should have the option of turning what they want to small, or off for that matter, and keeping what they want in large font
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Postby Piscator » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:55 pm

How about a colour code. For example green for people speaking or giving things to you and red for agressive actions against players.
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Postby Averus Wolfmaster » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:20 pm

I thought about this, no matter, its about making those events diffrent, no how. I dont think its much work with it and it is worth it.
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Postby wichita » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:30 pm

The importance of events depends on the town, to a certain extent. Prventing hunting is something more noteworthy than conversation, making sure that certain people are not whispering to each other in the crowd can also often be important....


The Polish characters already have an incredibly nice feature on their interface that nobody else seems to have access to, so I am not sure you guys would want to complain too loudly about the screens being crowded. ;) I am referring to the bold text that appears when someone whispers to, points to, attacks you etc.


I am kind of torn, though. Some change might be nice.
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Postby Kalsiver » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:42 pm

Good Idea, thats good project.
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Postby pipok » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:48 pm

Good idea, I like it.
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Postby ActionMutante » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:50 pm

It's a great idea. Colours would do as well...
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Postby SekoETC » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:40 pm

If it's colour then it needs to be something subtle, like light gray, since if you had to read several lines of bright red on a green bg, it would seriously burn your eyes off. And I agree that different people and different societies give certain activities a different level of importance. For example if someone has gotten used to people being dragged around because their boss/captain doesn't bother copying keys, they wouldn't think much of it. But for someone trying to avoid being captured, a big red line would be helpful.
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Postby Jos Elkink » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:58 am

I'm thinking about this but not really sure what I'd like. Most methods would make the site look very, very ugly. Multiple font sizes in one list of text is really quite ugly, imho, and many different colors perhaps even worse. I was thinking of small bullets in front of lines of different colors, but that is too little intrusive to have an effect :) ... So what's the brilliant solution that let you quickly scan what is important, without making the page look like a mess? :)

And yes, the "to you" events should definitely stand out. I think the solution might well be to do just that and leave the events otherwise untouched.

You could even imagine just some filtering, where you can remove particular types of events from your list, not permanently, and not by reloading the page, but just a little button before each event and if you click it, all events of that type vanish, and if you click a similar button again, it appears again. All dynamic without reloading the page. Shouldn't too complicated (that is, I'd just ask Grzegorz :) ) and it could be very useful. And better looking than other kinds of effects.
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Postby Nakranoth » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:36 am

Just a small fluke in the filtering concept... it a type of event is hidden, then there's nothing there to have a button next to it... so you'd need a "reveal hidden events" type button.
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Postby the_antisocial_hermit » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:27 am

Jos Elkink wrote:I'm thinking about this but not really sure what I'd like. Most methods would make the site look very, very ugly. Multiple font sizes in one list of text is really quite ugly, imho, and many different colors perhaps even worse. I was thinking of small bullets in front of lines of different colors, but that is too little intrusive to have an effect :) ... So what's the brilliant solution that let you quickly scan what is important, without making the page look like a mess? :)

And yes, the "to you" events should definitely stand out. I think the solution might well be to do just that and leave the events otherwise untouched.

You could even imagine just some filtering, where you can remove particular types of events from your list, not permanently, and not by reloading the page, but just a little button before each event and if you click it, all events of that type vanish, and if you click a similar button again, it appears again. All dynamic without reloading the page. Shouldn't too complicated (that is, I'd just ask Grzegorz :) ) and it could be very useful. And better looking than other kinds of effects.

Kind of like the filtering thing. Not big on colors. Not many colors look good/are readable on that green (oh how I've tried). Smaller font to me is okay, even if it's just very slight; I know I'd notice the difference anyway. And don't like the colors much even if it's just one type of event in one other color. I like the green, orange and white.. I think something else like yellow or.. uhm.. light blue, would just kinda make it ugly. Dunno what would be better than either of those options though. I do agree the "to you" events are important enough to warrant some discernment.
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Postby ActionMutante » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:43 am

Well... It happened... :shock: We have got smal fond, colours and all... :!: I think it's OK, like I say " no problemo" :mrgreen:
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Postby Jos Elkink » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:58 am

How do you mean, 'it happened'? Not in the events list ...

And yes, Nakranoth, how stupid do you think I am?! :) ... I thought it too obvious to mention ...

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