The Ballad of Maynard Leeward

[Genevieve]

ROFL. If anyone really thinks the Nossé is involved in something devious or political, they are crazy.

[west]

Have to agree with Gen here.

But as for Maily Yumm, the proof of the pudding will be how she acts when she gets where she's going.

I await that with great interest.

[griogal]

Just to poor salt into the wound.

Maily didn't attack Krif though Rory, the Mac Gregor's did and I am not talking about Rory.

Why would the MacGregors try to go after Maynard when they already had passed up so many chances to get him? That doesn't make any sense, if the MacGregors wanted to kill him then it could have been done ages ago before Maynard started building up his power base again, if he'd been killed before about 550 no one probly would even have paid it any attention, instead Gregor was working with Maynard at that time to bring stability to the region, and Maynard was in a building with Gregor, Vender Ghost, Mailly and someone esle for a few days between 550 and 555 or so...the perfect chance to kill him was passed up if any of those people really had wanted to do it. Instead they send Rory "Incompetant" MacGregor to kill Maynard years later? I highly doubt Gregor would be that stupid, and besides, this is the first time IC or OOC that any meantion of the MacGregors having anything to do with any of this has come to my attention. Plus, Gregor steped down as leader of the Rangers, another big mistake if he was after Maynard because that would've been the best place to arrange an attack or to just come up with a reason to kill him, which wouldn't have been hard for him to do. Not to meantion, that one of Rory's reasons for going after Maynard was because Rory thought that Maynard and Gregor had gotten to close.

It was believed that the MacGregors were playing Maynard from the beginning to get inside and gain some trust from him. That is where Rory and Gregor had a dispute. Rory wanted to take Maynard out but Gregor was being cautious. He wanted to not just cut off the head and leave the body.

Rory then went to the Forest to find out if the Forest would aid him. Yes, there were some that wanted to support this but Maily did not and instead got Rory to build some fortress in the Northern Hills to keep him quiet. Then Rory became involved with the whole Silverfoot thing and it was believed he did this to gain the trust of Krif so he could plan his attack. It was at this time that many of Rory's followers abandoned him.

Rory's attack did not invole the Forest. The Forest even went to great lengths to keep him from attacking as a full frontal attack against Krif would only make Maynard look better and hurt the image of everyone else that supported Rory.

Gregor had other plans with Maynard indeed....

[nitefyre]

Gregor had other plans with Maynard indeed....

That'd be interesting to see had Maily not had Maynard killed, what those plans would've been, and if they would work.

...Or would Maynard have WMDs by that time and the world be at his knees.

(IRL Comparison)

[west]

Nonsense. You're equating Maynard with some sort of terrorist.

[David]

...or "rogue" nation.

[ephiroll]

Yeah, Maynard wasn't a terrorist, and if he'd lived and the trail ended up leading back to Gregor then he'd been knocking on the door in Krif hills north demanding an explanation just as he did in the forest, with the same intends to do away with the problem, Mailly may have saved Gregors life, but we'll never know now.

Still doesn't make any sense for Gregor to has waited so long, like I said, unitl 550 or so Maynard didn't have any power base and no friends other then Jacob Simons, the meeting in Drojf with Mailly and Gregor boosted his credibility more then anything else coudl have at the time. Until then Maynard could have been killed with little political turmoil. And with haveing to do away with Rick and Brian, Maynard's power base really wasn't anything to worry about until about 580 or so.

But it seems alot of people have ignored one question, if Maynard was planning anything like what so many think, why did he hand power over to the council? If he was going to go on the warpath again that's the last thing he would've done, he did everything he could to convence everyone that he wasn't up to something.

And if past crimes are a reason to kill someone then Gregor and others don't have any room to talk anyway. Maynard could just have easily found legitamite reasons to go after them a long time ago. At least Maynard never ran from what he did, and he never lied to anyone far as I remember, other then omitting info regarding spies and such, everything else was the truth as Maynard seen it.

And just to add, the news about Gregor isnt' very surprising, Maynard knew he was dealing with a potential enemy, he knew that Gregor had swore to kill him at one time.

[Oasis]

he did everything he could to convince everyone that he wasn't up to something.

And right here might be where the problem lay, and the reason for so much suspicion. Perhaps he tried too hard.

[Meh]

As a player not a staff member I think that Valerie and whoever else wants to come up with excuses to protect lost keys should cut it out.

What happened to Maynard could not have spread back to Krif yet correct?

If it did I think it should be fair for anyone to ask exactly how the information got there.

Edit: So it can be verified by the players dept. Maybe e-mailing the players dept on how the information traveled so the players dpet can state that it is legitimate.

Maynard has been away before and no one else lied about him being dead. I don't think that playing at that it is a lie is fair either.

[griogal]

Yeah, Maynard wasn't a terrorist, and if he'd lived and the trail ended up leading back to Gregor then he'd been knocking on the door in Krif hills north demanding an explanation just as he did in the forest, with the same intends to do away with the problem, Mailly may have saved Gregors life, but we'll never know now.

Still doesn't make any sense for Gregor to has waited so long, like I said, unitl 550 or so Maynard didn't have any power base and no friends other then Jacob Simons, the meeting in Drojf with Mailly and Gregor boosted his credibility more then anything else coudl have at the time. Until then Maynard could have been killed with little political turmoil. And with haveing to do away with Rick and Brian, Maynard's power base really wasn't anything to worry about until about 580 or so.

But it seems alot of people have ignored one question, if Maynard was planning anything like what so many think, why did he hand power over to the council? If he was going to go on the warpath again that's the last thing he would've done, he did everything he could to convence everyone that he wasn't up to something.

And if past crimes are a reason to kill someone then Gregor and others don't have any room to talk anyway. Maynard could just have easily found legitamite reasons to go after them a long time ago. At least Maynard never ran from what he did, and he never lied to anyone far as I remember, other then omitting info regarding spies and such, everything else was the truth as Maynard seen it.

And just to add, the news about Gregor isnt' very surprising, Maynard knew he was dealing with a potential enemy, he knew that Gregor had swore to kill him at one time.

Gregor's plan has never been to kill Maynard, that chap was too valuable to just do away with.

[griogal]

As a player not a staff member I think that Valerie and whoever else wants to come up with excuses to protect lost keys should cut it out.

What happened to Maynard could not have spread back to Krif yet correct?

If it did I think it should be fair for anyone to ask exactly how the information got there.

Edit: So it can be verified by the players dept. Maybe e-mailing the players dept on how the information traveled so the players dpet can state that it is legitimate.

Maynard has been away before and no one else lied about him being dead. I don't think that playing at that it is a lie is fair either.

Does this have anything to do with the sudden execution of Rory, although the sentence by the Council had been years of imprisonment and forced labour?

[ephiroll]

As a player not a staff member I think that Valerie and whoever else wants to come up with excuses to protect lost keys should cut it out.

What happened to Maynard could not have spread back to Krif yet correct?

If it did I think it should be fair for anyone to ask exactly how the information got there.

Edit: So it can be verified by the players dept. Maybe e-mailing the players dept on how the information traveled so the players dpet can state that it is legitimate.

Maynard has been away before and no one else lied about him being dead. I don't think that playing at that it is a lie is fair either.

Does this have anything to do with the sudden execution of Rory, although the sentence by the Council had been years of imprisonment and forced labour?

The info can and did make it to Krif...you don't think Maynard was traveling alone do you?

[ephiroll]

Gregor's plan has never been to kill Maynard, that chap was too valuable to just do away with.

Ahhh... ...god I love that region.

[west]

Damn lousy RPers.

I play someone whom Maynard's death would influence hugely, and whom Maily Yumm is even now coming to see, but my char has no idea she's coming, or that he's dead, and hasn't changed his routine one bit, though with a few seconds' effort I could save myself a lot of possible trouble later on.

Lots of minor CR stretches going around, I think.

[jeslange]

*sighs* "Yeah, Maily didn't hurt Maynard's companions, and one left right after he died. She told everyone to let him go.