Death, notes and envelopes

[NiKnight]

Chris you are right, that will be CRB.

So maybe name of the envelope should be: "death of the man in his sixties" etc. ?

Or just check in the database how the character is often recognised by others and use this name to naming the envelope. Problem will be when nobody named dying character.

[Phalynx]

Just the sex and time and date of death would do the trick... provide handy evidence of death too - remember how rare reliable documentation of such things is!

[N-Aldwitch]

Beacuse as Seko points out - the name of the character is not always the same as the one they are known by - Introducing automatically named envelopes using the character name will be effectively be a CRB.

Yep, what he said. Like my friend, for example, who's an obsessive RPer, he has so many detailed characters that he just has a little footnote next to his character's names such as:

Madeup Name (likes to be an idiot sometimes)
Randomguy Forthesakeofit (trader, remember to make that trade with so-and-so)

So it WOULD be a CRB.

[Phalynx]

Yep, what he said. Like my friend, for example, who's an obsessive RPer, he has so many detailed characters that he just has a little footnote next to his character's names such as:

Madeup Name (likes to be an idiot sometimes)
Randomguy Forthesakeofit (trader, remember to make that trade with so-and-so)

So it WOULD be a CRB.

eh?

the whole note would therefore constitute a CRB, such notes should be kept elsewhere, not in game, surely?

[Marian]

I think he's means the character's name itself, not a note. I was surprised by the number of people that do that, name their chars something like 'Bob (joe) (steve)- limestone trader - sociopath'. (Of course by now anytime he talks about his 'friend' I just assume he means himself. )

Anyway, I'm against it too, a lot of times people drop some really interesting stuff. I wouldn't want diaries and last words and incriminating things just getting tucked away where no one will bother looking at them, (not to mention it would make things way to nice and neat for murderers) and I definately don't want to see them on a corpse where they could get destroyed so easily.

I do want notes to be destroyable eventually, but it should take an expensive machine and some effort.

[the_antisocial_hermit]

And it's often interesting to see what older characters drop...

Exactly... sometimes some great hidden history can be found in those notes, especially from older chars... Notes on death counts... scandals and secrets never told...

[NiKnight]

When someone want to read notes that will be no different when the notes are. Even now all my chars (and i think not only mine) check every envelopes for interesting notes.


Another solution:

Maybe all notes and envelopes from died character should be showed on the end of list of the objects. That will help much to clean up.

and "second another solution"

All notes and envelopes will stay with body until someone start buring or searching it. When search (like searching for clothes) there will be option to put all founded notes into envelope or just drop it to the ground.

But when someone want bury the body without searching it then all notes appear on ground like is resolved now.

[Marian]

I still don't know if we need this but if there had to be a change I would be okay with that, if they all stayed on the body until you took them off, and there was no chance of destroying them by burying the person.

Only if you tried to search them they should show up with a list of check boxes (like when you're looking in an envelope), and you could move them all into your inventory at once or just a specific few. (this would be visible to people around you)

Burying the person would just dump the notes on the ground.

[deadboy]

Nooooo!

Don't do it! Don't implement this!

[NiKnight]

I'm against destroying notes.

Btw. when ships can be destroyed (sink) what will be happen with all notes on board?

[Phalynx]

Btw. when ships can be destroyed (sink) what will be happen with all notes on board?

As they can't its not an issue.

[Schme]

Exactly. There's honestly no need.

[N-Aldwitch]

I think he's means the character's name itself, not a note. I was surprised by the number of people that do that, name their chars something like 'Bob (joe) (steve)- limestone trader - sociopath'. (Of course by now anytime he talks about his 'friend' I just assume he means himself. )

I do mean the character's name itself, correct, though the friend is not me, it's Seeker.

[Chris]

I am going to revive this topic to say that I support the suggestion. Even one person dying can make a huge note mess on the ground, not to mention several people dying. It's a lot of work to keep things tidy.

I also think that we should be able to read and edit notes in an envelope without taking them out of the envelope. Or drop a note to the ground in a single step. Envelopes should be more like computer file folders. You don't have to move a file out of a folder to read it.

Let everyone spawn with a master envelope that they cannot drop while they are alive. Every note they pick up goes in there. They can make other envelopes inside the master envelope. When they die, their master envelope drops to the ground. All their notes and other envelopes are inside.

[SekoETC]

I was also thinking about this envelope thing, why do you have to move the notes out of the envelope to read them? If you don't have to unlock a door to walk through it then likewise you shouldn't be forced to remove a note from an envelope to read it.