Death, notes and envelopes

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Death, notes and envelopes

Postby NiKnight » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:11 pm

When somebody is dying all his notes and envelopes are appearing on the ground. That make a mess and it's hard to clean up.

I suggest that death should "put" all notes and envelopes to new envelope and then drop to the ground.
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Postby BarbaricAvatar » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:36 pm

Or, all the notes stay on the body and can be buried with it.
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Postby Phalynx » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:38 pm

The latter would be better but unlikey therefore I am for the former till the latter becomes accepted.
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Postby deadboy » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:40 pm

Noo.... don't implement either! The second is a way of writing being lost! And the first just means that noone looks at what you've written once you're dead! Keep the messiness because people at least look at the messiness!
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Re: Death, notes and envelopes

Postby Marian » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:05 pm

NiKnight wrote:I suggest that death should "put" all notes and envelopes to new envelope and then drop to the ground.


Aww, Death's a great guy, always so polite about cleaning up after himself. :)
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Postby NiKnight » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:41 pm

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I know him, he brought me a shrubbery :twisted:

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PS. I used quotation marks specially 8)
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Postby Cdls » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:44 pm

I agree that the problem of notes dropping when a person dies. It becomes a pain when that person has decided to collect every note he has come across. I dont see how the notes being buried with the dead person would have an effect on the "note and writing" history of Cantr. It seems there are hundreds of notes already and maybe this would be a good way of thinning that number down. It could also create a good way to make people have a proper storage area for important documents and such.
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Postby Hannibal The Imbecile 15 » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:58 am

ENOUGH REALISM!!! Can't you see? The more real cantr becomes the less oldbies want to play it.
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Postby Phalynx » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:09 am

Whilst I appreciate your view, don't use oldbies leaving to justify it. They are dropping like flies in any case.
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Postby T-shirt » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:20 am

All notes being automatically moved to an envellope is automation. When someone dies, someone has to clean up the mess.
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Postby tiddy ogg » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:05 am

I don't see it as automation. These chars carry gas, sand, milk etc, and you surely must imagine them in one container. It can thus be considered that all his notes are in a contaoiner, Fred's Envelope, which, if it falls out of his inside pocket at all and doesn't die with him, falls to the ground in one package.
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Postby SekoETC » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:26 am

I don't think I like this. It's artificial. Most people with a notable amount of notes are either manages or people who take copies of everything. And people like this should know that it's easier to put them in envelopes when you don't need them. Moving the "operate on multiple notes" button on the top of the page would help, as would placing the "create new envelope" button there.

In fact, "create new envelope" and "create new note" should BOTH be placed under the notes subtab - this way people won't be surprised where their notes vanished since in order to find the buttons you would have to find the notes sub tab first.

Other people to use multiple notes are frustrated note bombers and it would defeat the effect artificially if notes were placed in an envelope. People should be able to toss their possessions around the yard as a last act of revenge (with some self-moderation of course). If everything else is still gonna fall around the yard then notes should too. If things should remain on/close to the corpse then notes should as well. But creating an envelope is, I repeat, an artificial solution.

Naming the envelope after the deceased character's real name? Umm, what if this person was staying incognito? A very stupid idea.
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Postby NiKnight » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:08 am

Did you clean up more than hundred notes? If your character for example live in city where everytime lying about 30 notes and dies somebody who got 100 notes then cleaning up take at least half hour.

Every character has a name. Why don't use it as name of envelope?
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Postby Chris Johnson » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:22 am

Beacuse as Seko points out - the name of the character is not always the same as the one they are known by - Introducing automatically named envelopes using the character name will be effectively be a CRB.
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Postby formerly known as hf » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:42 am

It's not really that much of an issue, is it?

Most players already sort out their multitudes of notes into envelopes within their inventories. And it's often interesting to see what older characters drop...
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