Less time to make coins.

[Wilmer Bordonado]

I'm trying to start a currency system on a new born, but pushing, spanish city. I know that what I'm going to say would be better posted on suggestions, but... Making coins shouldn't take so much time. You might have to be able to build 100 coins a day, for instance.
That would make coins and currency system more common and useful.

Wilmer B.

Making coins shouldn't take so much time. You might have to be able to build 100 coins a day, for instance.

Yes, correct. The cost of making the coins should be low relative to their metal value. It also implies that coins should be dealt with in stacks, if needed. But that probably needs quite a bit of programming, so I don't know...

This discussion has born in the General Support area, but I thought that posting it here at Suggestions could be better to be analysed.

The idea is simple and it consist of lowering the time for making coins with a coin press. That would certainly help on the interest of building coin presses, on a first moment, and making coins and establishing a currency system, in a second one.

Wilme B.

[Mykey]

This variant does not approach me. Perhaps there are still variants?

[Talapus]

The press can create 20 coins per day, which is four times what it used to.

[Mykey]

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[Wilmer Bordonado]

The press can create 20 coins per day, which is four times what it used to.

Sorry, but I did not understand your words upwards from the comma. Could you explain it more clearly?

Thanks!

Wilmer B.

[Mykey]

In my opinion it is obvious. I have found the answer to your question in google.com

[Talapus]

Sorry about that, it wasn't quite correct english so I can understand how it might be hard to read. Coin production used to be at the rate of 5 coins per day. Now coin production is at the rate of 20 coins per day. Therefore, the new rate is 4 times as fast as the old rate.

[Wilmer Bordonado]

Thanks for being clear!

But I think we're discussing the current rate of coin production is absurd, so it does not matter if it's 5 or 20 or 50... The matter is that making coins with an special machine (coin press) is much less efficient, for intance, than collecting carrots with a special machine (carrot harvester, which du- third- plicate, I don't really know, the collection of that item)

Coin press is an expensive machine to build and its production should be re-analysed if currency system is wanted - or wished, sorry- to be implemented IG.-

Wilmer B.

[Mykey]

I consider, that you have deceived.

[Talapus]

Make it 10,000 a day.

You can really afford to blow 100,000 grams of iron each day ?

The matter is that making coins with an special machine (coin press) is much less efficient, for intance, than collecting carrots with a special machine (carrot harvester, which du- third- plicate, I don't really know, the collection of that item)

While a carrot harvester quadruples the collection of carrots, a coin press is the only way to make coins. Since you can't make coins by hand (or by any other method other then press), you can't compare the efficiencies.

[Mykey]

Bravo, seems to me, is an excellent phrase

[Wilmer Bordonado]

While a carrot harvester quadruples the collection of carrots, a coin press is the only way to make coins. Since you can't make coins by hand (or by any other method other then press), you can't compare the efficiencies.

I can't, you can be sure on that.
But I can compare the effort of building those two machines. And its efficiencies.

But this topic is not about a carrot harvester, but about a coin press...

I would like to listen to an argument which tells me why coins couldn't be made at a 100 rate per day.

Thanks!

Wilmer B.

[Nosajimiki]

Coins are only as vaulable as people agree on them to be. If you agree that a coin is worth say 1 day's labour, and you can make 20 of them bad-boys a day, they really don't seem that bad a deal. Heck, I know one city where nickle coins are worth 5 days labour, that's 100 day's profit to what ever sneeky banker spends a day pressing the things out. Of course, there is the issue of getting merchants to agree to a coin system, but at that point, it's no longer an issue of how many you have as much as it is will they agree to the non-instantaniuos proffits which, along with the difficulty of making a press, is the real hinderence, niether of which can realilisticly be elimiated as one is an RP issue and the other a nessessity of preventing counterfieting. Besides the more coins you can make a day, the less valueble they are, thus you need to carry more around with you meaning more wieght.

[Wilmer Bordonado]

Coins are only as vaulable as people agree on them to be.

No, You're wrong.

Wilmer B.

[wietse]

The coins are fine as it is. I agree with the above post.
The value of coins is not in the time or materials needed to make them but the value people put on it.

We use coins that are worth 1 workday (steel), 5 workday's (iron), 10 workdays (copper) and even 50 workdays (silver coins).

The mostly used coins are i guess the 10 workday coins, because you don't need so many of them for a decent deal or payout.

We made all the coins when it was still 5 coins a day and that was quick enough. If i can use the coins to pay something and not get the coins back for some time, i can make a profit. But if people hand them in for raw materials right away (as often happens still, because there is not enough trust that they can/want still use them later i guess) the coins are still a usefull calculation and payout mechanism.

It would not change a thing if you could make coins faster, because it is not related to their value.