Michael Jackson

[Báng]

Just imagine if there was no Michael Jackson though, the best character would be out of Bo Selecta!

[grayjaket]

Secondly he is a wonderful parent. He got carried away when the baby dangling incident happened. His kids are happy

Lastly, he is the king of pop and everyone should leave him alone so he can do what he wants.

Wonderful parents do not dangle their children off balconys or seclude them from the world. Wonderful parents don't get charged with child molestation.

And just cuz he's the king of pop, doesn't make him exempt from anything....he can do what he wants? No, he can't, cuz he's still human, my friend....

[Cheshierekat]

Not everyone can be hypnotized. And, if I ever, EVER dangled my kids off of a balcony that high off the ground, I would beg someone to lock me up.

[Darth Tiberius]

Michael is misunderstood. If people realize he brings love to the world and that he is only trying to be nice, people would stop calling him a freak.

He got carried away with all the fans screaming at him to show them the baby. So he got caught up in the moment.

I think no-one has a right to call him a freak.

Hypnosis has been used very frequently for psychological purposes. I beleive then it is a viable form of getting the facts.

[Ash]

Michael is misunderstood. If people realize he brings love to the world and that he is only trying to be nice, people would stop calling him a freak.

He got carried away with all the fans screaming at him to show them the baby. So he got caught up in the moment.

I think no-one has a right to call him a freak.

Hypnosis has been used very frequently for psychological purposes. I beleive then it is a viable form of getting the facts.

LOL.. Bullshite.. absaloute crap..lol Fed up of arguing i feel i have made my point.

Just a quick conclusion though.. (Personal Opinion)

Jako is a Freako
He is guilty
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Just about sums everything up.

[rklenseth]

Hypnosis is used a lot more than it has in the past but there are still problem with it and many psychologicals don't like it.

Anyways, as I said before, I will wait to see the evidence myself before I claim Michael is innocent or guilty. I was just pointing out incidences before that made him look suspicious or that the police seemed to have wrapped up their investigation pretty quickly so I was suggesting that they might think they have a solid case or some really damning evidence. Either way, if Michael broke the law or if it looks like he broke the law then it is should and must be investigated. Just because Michael is famous or whatever does not make him above the law or the system. That goes for everyone.

And furthermore, allegations of child molestation is serious in this country. The boy brought these allegations to the police and it was the police's responsibility to investigate and if they find that Michael might have committed the crimes he has been alleged of then to bring the proper charges agaisnt him. And now, Michael will have to defend himself against these allegations and the evidence the police found in court. Now it is up to the jury and judge to decide whether Michael is guilty or not of the charges, if guilty then decide a sentence for Michael, if not guilty then Michael gets to go home and will most likely file civil charges against the family that alleged the charges against him.

Just because you are a celebrity doesn't give you the right to be above the system or to get away with things that normal people wouldn't.

And child molestation isn't spreading love. A child who is molested lives with that the rest of their life and it doesn't create feelings of love. Most enviromental psychological disorders that adults have come from being molested as a child. Mostly repression leading to post tramatic stress, or even worse such as multiple personalities. I don't think 20 years is enough considering that child will most likely with it for the rest of their lives.

[Ash]

Just because you are a celebrity doesn't give you the right to be above the system or to get away with things that normal people wouldn't.

And child molestation isn't spreading love. A child who is molested lives with that the rest of their life and it doesn't create feelings of love. Most enviromental psychological disorders that adults have come from being molested as a child. Mostly repression leading to post tramatic stress, or even worse such as multiple personalities. I don't think 20 years is enough considering that child will most likely with it for the rest of their lives.

Hit the nail on the head..

Children who are abused or molested more likely to commit that themselves to their children when they become mum/dads it happens..

[Darth Tiberius]

nah.....I'm not saying that he should be above the law, but all the evidence shows that he is innocent so there is no need to investigate him. Even the last liars who accused him admitted it was all made up.

Secondly, what I mean by "him spreading love" was that he is helping many kids who cannot help themselves or have a rough life. These children were forced into this trial by their parents for money. This one is no different. all it is, is hatred. Not justice.

[rklenseth]

nah.....I'm not saying that he should be above the law, but all the evidence shows that he is innocent so there is no need to investigate him. Even the last liars who accused him admitted it was all made up.

Secondly, what I mean by "him spreading love" was that he is helping many kids who cannot help themselves or have a rough life. These children were forced into this trial by their parents for money. This one is no different. all it is, is hatred. Not justice.

All the evidence? I haven't seen any evidence and considering the trial hasn't begun yet then it would have been impossible for you to have seen the evidence as it is illegal to put the evidence of the crime out there before the trial. In a high profile case like this, I don't think anyone in the trial would allow even a little bit of the evidence to slip out into the public.

The things is that allegation were brought forth to the police. It is the law that the police investigate these allegation and they did with a raid on Michael's Neverland Ranch, which they had a warrant from a Federal judge. Whatever the police found at his ranch and during there what two day long investigation was enough for them to have an arrest warrant issued for Michael's arrest and to charge him with the crimes he is on trial for. Usually investigations would last a lot longer before such an arrest warrant issued and criminal charges pressed but whatever the police found was to them damning enough to do all of those things within less than 24 hours.

And furthermore the parents of this child that was supposedly molested by Michael never reported it to the police. It was the child's psychologist that reported it to police after a session with the child that raised alarms that something happened. It was the law for the pyschologist to do that as to not report if you believe abuse or otherwise is happening could get you arrested as well for keeping it secret.

So lets get this straight; the parents never reported it to the authorities, it was the child's psychologist that did. The parents aren't pressing the charges, the county is. This is a criminal case not a civil case so if Michael is found guilty he cannot be charged for that same crime in a civil case and this means the parents don't get any money. No money is rewarded in a criminal case.

Lets keep the facts straight from what we do know. We haven't seen any of the evidence against or for Michael Jackson as that would be illegal and no person going to allow evidence to slip in such a high profile case like this. So until the trial begins and both sides present there evidence to court then none of us should judge Michael or the other side until we see the evidence for ourselves. Yes, it is your right to judge him or the family for whatever reasons you like but is it right to judge something before you know it or before you know the facts surrounding it?

[Darth Tiberius]

The parents told the boy to say this!!! The psychologist has been picking up on the lies of the parents that the boy was made to say! The parents are motivated by malice if not money like the last ones. These people wanna make a good man's reputation very bad. They are the real bad guys here. Maybe the psychologist is being too presumptuous.

And there has been evidence. ALL THE KIDS that have stayed over like the kid from Home Alone have all said that no bad stuff ever happened. His family and friends all see this. Also the documentary didn't say he allways slept in the same bad., He often slept on the floor.

I can judge him now. Innocent. No trial in my mind. This is "justice" at it's worse. He isn't perfect. Virtually no people are. But he is a decent man. A bit weird and maybe not what we would see as normal but he is a kind man.

[Ash]

Oooohh.. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!! LOL

Darth, quick question, are YOU Micheal Jakson?

[Darth Tiberius]

LMFAO!

I wouldn't mind being MJ in the 80's. But there are people I'd rather be. Weird Al Yankovic for example.

and rklensth knows this ain't personal to any of us. Much. Except if he goes after Weird Al.

[nitefyre]

I think this poll was objective. It should've been, "He is guilty without a measure of a doubt." But it limited the amount of variety in answering that he is guilty. There are two options for innocent, yet one for guilty. WTF, what type of b.s. is it?

So I say w.o a doubt, he is as messed up as this poll.

[Missy]

I don't think one can conclude he is or isn't guilty. EVEN the justice system can't do that. There's not proof of anything in this world. Even if you were or weren't there to see what goes on, its your word against someoen elses. Even if MJ were to admitt he did molest children who knows that he is really guilty. lol

But since it is going to court the" justice " system will conclude for us.

While I do agree that is a possiblity that this is all just a scheme brought forth by people who want to get rich, you can't ignore the claims that are being brought forth. If you did, you'd be insane.

The media is one of the worlds most harshest critiques. It is the reason why certain things happen the way they do. Perhaps if the last episode with the child hadn't been so widely reported, we wouldn't be so judgemental about this time. Or if it wasn't broadcasted last time maybe these people wouldn't even be saying what they are. WHO knows. Noone does. You can say you think you do, but the truth is, none of us really "know" what he does or doesn't do.

I for one am not going to sit here and judge a man because of the way he is portrayed by stupid shows that talk about the change in his skin color or the way his nose has changed over the years. Especially not when you have the Pam anderson lees of the world etc...
She has enormous breasts and has obviously undergone changes by the knife. Does that make her a child molestor? Michael just happened to focus on his nose. Big whoopie. Who cares if he looks odd. That doesn't make him a freak, it makes him a part of the majority in hollywood who seem to think vanity is important.


If you want to judge him you should judge him when the judge and jury ahs made their decision.

And even then, he is but a man. Call me odd or messed up--But I don't believe any child molestor can help themselves. So if he is guilty does that make him any worse than the every day child molestor? No, it doesn't.
Could he be using his power and money to get out of trouble and avoid charges for something, maybe he is guilty and knows it? Yes of course it's possible.
Could the people who brought on these charges be diong it for money? Yes indeed they could.

So he has had a nose job and you think he's a freak and that makes him guilty. I sure hope noone here has to get surgery on their nose then make a mistake in their life---and go under trial, you sure will be sorry.

I like to look at ALLLLLLLLLL the facts. Not just that the family the last time took the money and mj paid them off. That could mean 2 things. EIther that family was lying, or that michael was guilty and didn't want to rot in jail. 2 things. Not one.

And to make the point---Yeah Richards theory is deffinately possibly. (*Has taken that into account many tiems*) But also...imagine it was your child and your child was molested by this man and you went to court...WOULD YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU settle for the money IF YOU really thought he molested yoru child????????? HELLLLLLLL no! Absolutely not. So doesn't that also make one believe it's possible that the family was in it for the money?
Thats my point. How do we know? We don't. So why bother?
Let the court do their job, and everyone else mind their own business. If he is guilty he'll get what he deserves. If the family is in it for the money they'll most likely get what they deserve too- ONE way or another.

[grayjaket]

Dude, no matter how many times you say michael jackson is kinda and loving doesn't change the facts...