Babies and children

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Postby quidit » Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:13 pm

Point well taken RK. I agree with most of that and I think the babie idea is good for the game. I just wanted to get my thoughts out there like everybody else, and that is that I dont want to be forced into Role Playing sex to have a child in game, a reproduce buttton like what Ecilope said would be fine for me and people can choose to roleplay sex if they want.
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Postby Missy » Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:18 pm

I do believe thats why they are making it that way quidit. :)

And I also whole heartedly agree with RKL.
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Postby quidit » Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:43 pm

Actually nevermind what I have said I put more thought into how the game is played out, the professionalism of the programmers and the maturity of the players and I'm sure the game will continue to be great and more indepth. I appologize for the poor forum.

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Postby Ecilope » Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:47 am

I think Orion's idea about only married couples having babies, and that happening automatically is a horrible one. For two reasons- One, you shouldn't need to be married to have kids. What if someone just wants to pair up with someone to reproduce and then raise the kid alone?. And two- not all married couples will automatically want children right off the bat, if at all. Marriage and children have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
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Postby kroner » Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:53 am

Plus programmed marraige goes against the idea of the game. Institutions like these are supposed to be created by the players.
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Postby The Hunter » Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:08 am

I don't know its against the "idea" of the game. True, a lot of things are left to the players to "RP", but that might have been more like a side effect of the programming.

But sex as a project? I'm not against if because of of younger ppl playing Cantr, I just think of sex as a "project" Is ridicuous somehow. Imagine the responses ingame. Remember what happened when the characters found out they were naked. Having sex as a project will make the ingame responses when nudity was introduced seem like a sidenote.

But maybe ppl could send a request for parenthood to the PD upon which they are on the waiting list for a baby. :P

Marriage and children have absolutely nothing to do with each other.


Ummmm. History proves you wrong. Atleast untill effective contraceptive's were introduced really. (Hmmm... Maybe a "condom button" is an option. Untill you click it couples use contraceptives" :wink:
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Postby sammigurl61190 » Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:52 am

Orion, Hunter and guide wrote:Hmmm... Maybe a "condom button" is an option. Untill you click it couples use contraceptives :wink:


Now that would be an interesting idea. Maybe there would be a significantly smaller chance of someone getting pregnant if that would be used, but there would still be a chance. It would be interesting to see what the results of that would be. Such as the percentages.
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Postby jeslange » Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:33 pm

I think that if players get to request parenthood, then they should specify which of their chars they want to be possible parents. It would not be good for a char starving in a desert somewhere to suddenly have a baby, when the player had one of his or her more settled chars in mind, or at least one capable of providing some level of care for the baby.
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Postby Ash » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:14 pm

HAHAHA! :lol:
I just had a wild idea. One could set up an adoption agency. 8) (Always thinking about business, eh? :lol: )

And also i am not sure wether this has been discussed or not that violence towards a newborn should not be allowed until they are a certain age. Otherwise people could just kill young'uns. :(
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Postby rklenseth » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:23 pm

I still disagree. I think 'sexual intercourse' should be programmed then the societies and individual characters can decide the morality of it. I don't think a player should request from the staff that their one character can have a child. I also don't think the institution of marriage should be forced in game through programming. What if a society of culture don't believe in marriage? I think that sex should be a project between multiple characters that can be forced (thus rape) or agreed upon from all characters involved. In order for this project to successfully produce a pregnancy then there would have to be at least one female and male character invovled and then the success of pregnancy depends on players waiting for a new character. If no players are waiting then the female does not become pregnant. If players are waiting then it would depend on a chance of success which will also consider how many players are waiting. If 1 player is waiting then chances of success are less. If 5 players are waiting then chances of success are great. Then if the project is a success then a player will be randomly assigned to the baby that will be still in the female. If the player happens to decide before the birth that he or she doesn't want a new character then this result in a failed pregnancy. The player who will be playing the baby will not know anything about the area until it born. Perhaps the player would see; "All you see is a darkness and you are slightly aware of your surroundings".

As I said before, I don't think morality should be programmed in the game. That will be up to the societies and the cultures that develop in the game. Once again I think the societies and the individual characters should deal with it rather than us as players or the program.
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Postby rklenseth » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:28 pm

Jimothy wrote:HAHAHA! :lol:
I just had a wild idea. One could set up an adoption agency. 8) (Always thinking about business, eh? :lol: )

And also i am not sure wether this has been discussed or not that violence towards a newborn should not be allowed until they are a certain age. Otherwise people could just kill young'uns. :(


Once again, I will say that morality should not be programmed. I think babies should be killed and in fact be more vulernable. Perhaps even a punch at full strength at a very young baby would instantly kill the baby. Some societies might come to sacrifice children and others may come to protect them more than others. Either way, morality should be left up to the society.
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Postby Ash » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:31 pm

There could just be some idiot who hits every one and kills a baby, thats why i said about that. And also yes, sacrificing babies could be some-one religon i have no problems with that.
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Postby rklenseth » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:37 pm

Well that idiot better hope that that society doesn't value children lives over others or he would have some problem. But it also might make a reason for people to build homes and put locks on them to keep idiots like that from doing such things. I see this more as a societal problem rather than any other.

But I would like to see an improved combat system where a person would tire after hitting so many people. That would keep idiots from striking about 80 people without once tiring. Plus after tiring out then that person would be easier to attack no matter what type of defense he has and possibly easier to drag away without a struggle.
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Postby Ash » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:45 pm

Yeah.

When babies come will there be things such as prams, car seats, cots, and other baby related things.
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Postby Meh » Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:48 pm

Leashes.

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