Catalan

[formerly known as hf]

they are there because there are enough players and people willing to work as translators for it to be worthwhile - is that not a 'good' argument?

No, that's whats comonly known as a waste of time.

Why is it a waste of time? Why is that 'commonly known' as a waste of time? I wouldn't see it as a waste of time, neither, it seems do other people.

[Cookie]

they are there because there are enough players and people willing to work as translators for it to be worthwhile - is that not a 'good' argument?

No, that's whats comonly known as a waste of time.

Why is it a waste of time? Why is that 'commonly known' as a waste of time? I wouldn't see it as a waste of time, neither, it seems do other people.

If your local comunity campaigns for a new skate park and their aint enough people who want it. t aint gonna happen, cos it would be a waste of time building it. Yeh.

That'll answer both of those questions.

And for the record, to the guy who said there was no point in me posting my reply. I was only saying i doubt he'll find anyone.

[formerly known as hf]

but my point is that there are enough latin and esperanto speaking cantr players to have warranted those language areas - hence, not a waste of time...

[Junesun]

I find your posts are bordering on offensive, Cookie Monster. If you are against Catalan, that is just a personal opinion and doesn't give you the right to tell millions of people to abandon their mother tongue. That kind of Rhodesian attitude doesn't belong here, if indeed it belongs anywhere in these modern times, because Cantr isn't just there for English speakers but for speakers of all languages.

Of course a language won't be added if nobody will play in it. There are requirements that must be met before a new language is introduced. That's why Chinese hasn't yet been added: even though there are about 1 billion speakers of Chinese world-wide, not enough of them are interested in Cantr. On the other hand, Polish has only about 6% of that amount of speakers and yet is the biggest Cantr group apart from English. Russian has way more native speakers than Polish, and a very substantial amount of non-native speakers, and it is implemented in Cantr, yet there are currently only 2 Russian players.
All this to show you: there is no mentionable link between amount of speakers of a language and amount of Cantr players. What is really important is the interest players show in playing Cantr in their language. If there is enough interest to warrant a new language group, it will be implemented. If not, it won't. Very simple and quite independant from language statistics (which apparently have no discernable relation to Cantr players to be expected) and personal taste.

A Catalan language group will be created if there is enough interest. Period. Pa-integral is trying to raise enough interest and that's his right, in fact, Cantr is grateful for anybody trying to attract more players, particularly from language groups that the Marketing Department can't reach. You as a non-Catalan-speaking person have the right (or actually the duty) not to play in the Catalan area, if it is created, and that is all that you should concern yourself with. There's no need to discuss Catalan's or any language's right to be in Cantr because the rules are clear on that.

[Sho]

That sounds final. I agree completely and have nothing to add, except to give Junesun coolness points for using the adjective "Rhodesian."

EDIT: Okay, so one more.

And for the record, to the guy who said there was no point in me posting my reply. I was only saying i doubt he'll find anyone.

That sounds pretty pointless to me. And your second post in the thread was rather offensive.

[Cookie]

If these are the rules then may be they sould be changed. Before we have countless islands on cantr with five people on each of em.

How do you know theres no interest in china?

And as for my second post being offensive. I couldn't care less if I offend a catalonian. The place is full of fanatic racists who'll take the idea of their silly litle states independance to the point of giving death threats to managers of catalonian football teams.

[wulf]

And as for my second post being offensive. I couldn't care less if I offend a catalonian. The place is full of fanatic racists who'll take the idea of their silly litle states independance to the point of giving death threats to managers of catalonian football teams.

I suspect you don't have qualms about offending anybody. I'm glad you're not running the game!

Personally, I think it's great that Cantr is expanding across linguistic boundaries. I don't think it has any adverse effect on the game and it opens up all sorts of fascinating opportunities as naval exploration increases and people of different lagnuages are encountering each other.

Wulf

[Junesun]

If these are the rules then may be they sould be changed. Before we have countless islands on cantr with five people on each of em.

How do you know theres no interest in china?

And as for my second post being offensive. I couldn't care less if I offend a catalonian. The place is full of fanatic racists who'll take the idea of their silly litle states independance to the point of giving death threats to managers of catalonian football teams.

I know there's no interest in a Chinese Cantr region because I'm the chairperson of the Languages Department and everytime somebody wants to create a character in a language that isn't part of Cantr yet, they get directed to me. I also review the applications of new translators. So far, nobody asked for a Chinese region and nobody volunteered to translate Cantr to Chinese. I personally would love to practise my Chinese in Cantr, but as long as the requirements for a new language group aren't met, there's nothing I can do.

The rules do ensure that there will be more than just a few characters when a new language area is created, they ensure that there will be at least one translator (who must have translated a large amount of the Cantr texts before the first characters are allowed to spawn) and they ensure that somebody will advertise for more players speaking that particular language. However, rules can not ensure that foreign players also stay with the game and continue to play their characters. The current rules can't ensure that and no imaginable new rules could ensure it. That can only be ensured if there is a friendly, welcoming atmosphere for people whose native language is not English. Your comments are poisoning the atmosphere. I wouldn't blame anybody for deciding against joining Cantr after seeing that apparently people are free to abuse ethnic minorities here.

[the_antisocial_hermit]

*sends props to Junesun*

[AoM]

The place is full of fanatic racists who'll take the idea of their silly litle states independance to the point of giving death threats to managers of catalonian football teams.

Hmm... a generalized racist statement calling catalonians racists. How ironic.

[west]

<3 Junesun

[Sho]

I feel the need to necro this thread and bring this up: http://www.cantr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=156406#156406