stone axes

[Marian]

Awesome! Are these brand new or did I just take awhile to notice them?

[Chris Johnson]

No you were very observant, RD just released them into the wild

[Hellzon]

Whee!

/Hellzon - short and to the point

[Pie]

AAAAHHHH!!!! THE PROG.DEP. FINALLY RELEASED SOMTING GOOD!!!!!

[Peanut]

AAAAHHHH!!!! THE PROG.DEP. FINALLY RELEASED SOMTING GOOD!!!!!

That's Resource Dep Pie.

[Pie]

It isn't the programming department? Ok.*Takes the credit away frome the Prog.D. and back to the Res.D.* HURAY FOR TEH RESOURS DEP.

[wichita]

Stone axes went in last night, a bit too late for me to post announcement or send info to the wiki. We will try to get it there ASAP.

Two implementations here, both found in the tools sub-menu:

stone cleaver --> essentially a wedge of stone with no handle, very primitive and based directly on the [url="http://www.cantr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5477"]suggestion accepted long ago[/url].

stone axe --> made by adding a wood handle to the stone cleaver

Both increase wood gathering rates and function as primitive weapons, the stone axe being slightly more efficient. As they are tools, they are capable of being added to projects in the future, but currently aren't assigned.

[Sho]

Hellozon added the manufacturing info and wood gathering rates already. The only thing I'm missing is their attack values as weapons.

[SCUBA]

Sho, 9 and 14 if im correct informd. :-)

[Talapus]

SCUBA is right. 9 for the cleaver, and 14 for the axe.

[T.L.H.E.]

I hate to be not thrilled about more accessible tools, but these really illustrate just how lame actual steel axes are. I mean... 133% gathering rate for a stone tool that requires no advanced machines to make, and only 200% for the steel counterpart? Seems a bit unbalanced.

[Sho]

If you look at it in terms of the amount by which the gathering rate is increased, the steel axe is significantly better: 100% as opposed to 33%.

And we've more or less established that Cantr players will do anything to get a few percentage points of an advantage - recall the big fuss about what the most powerful weapon was, when the top three were no more than 5% apart from each other.

[wichita]

I am waiting to see how it goes. We are hoping that there is enough incentive to the steel axe to keep players making them. The deterioration/repair balance comparison for the axe and stone axe is going to be similar to the philosophy for hammers and stone hammers.

On top of that, 600 grams per day rather than 400 or 300 is actually a pretty big deal in the grand scheme of things.

[Surly]

If you bring deterioration into it, Wich, the steel axes are just going to seem even more lame...

[Talapus]

No changes have been made to the steel axe Surly. What Wichita was trying to say is that the stone axe decays more quickly, and repairs more slowly then the steel axe.