Where's Nick??

[Nick]

Thetaris, and others, you seem to have interpreted my posts as a lengthy "let me back in" query. Not the case. So it's really hard to take sides on that issue, because, even I am not fighting on my side.

[Sho]

People make the same mistake about what I say, too - part of the reason I gave up on that.

[Doug R.]

Jos wrote:

Unfortunately, I seem to be the only one who thinks the rule is totally obvious Smile ...

No, I think it is totally obvious also, hence my several posts arguing that many of the PD's interpretations of the CR actually break the CR for non-cheating characters.

PS, how do you get someone's name in bold above a quote instead of "quote"?

[Sarah]

PS, how do you get someone's name in bold above a quote instead of "quote"?

There's a "quote" button on every post, you can click that. If you want to type it yourself, put [ quote="name" ] without spaces.

[The Sociologist]

I remain very disappointed. I could have learned a lot from Nick as player by having Dietrich live alongside Adf as characters. I still do not see that a case has been made for the seriousness of the breach being enough to warrant banning for life or letting unaffected charries die. It's hard enough being any kind of pirate or military figure in this game without them chucking out the last few with any hope.

[Jos Elkink]

I remain very disappointed. I could have learned a lot from Nick as player by having Dietrich live alongside Adf as characters. I still do not see that a case has been made for the seriousness of the breach being enough to warrant banning for life or letting unaffected charries die. It's hard enough being any kind of pirate or military figure in this game without them chucking out the last few with any hope.

To be sure: no case has been made in public against Nick, and my posts above were not making the case. As I said before, my memory of this kind of cases is always very bad, and I tend to forget all details, so the PD has a more extensive file than I do or reported here. Whether you agree with the ruling or not, there is no way you can properly judge from the above.

[Jos Elkink]

So no comments on my addition to the Wiki?

[WojD]

Your additions generate many comments at Polish Forums. Most people found these restrictions too hard...

[SekoETC]

Huh, what addition?

[Black Canyon]

I read it and it made sense to me.

[WojD]

Huh, what addition?

This one:

Although these do not fully capture the Capital Rule, a number of simple guidelines assist the Players Department in dealing with (likely) breaches:

* You are not allowed to have more than one character in the same organization.
* You are not allowed to have more than two characters on the same location.
* You are not allowed to ask friends out-of-character to help you with something in-character, or to quickly log in to help.
* You are not allowed to attack the same character by several of your own characters.
* You are not allowed to spread maps or other in-game information by out-of-character means, like your own website.

Although these rules help as simple guidelines, it should be emphasized that they do not replace the Capital Rule as such. The key is to understand the spirit of the Capital Rule, which is basically about roleplaying. When you play your characters, imagine diving into their skin, and think from their perspective. None of the actions of your characters should be on the basis of your knowledge as a player about other locations, fellow characters, or the history of the game, or on the basis of your communication with fellow players out-of-character. Play your character from his or her in-game experiences, with his or her in-game knowledge, and taking his or her in-game personality and interests in mind. There should be no difference between the interaction between your character and a perfect stranger and the interaction between your character and another character of yourself or of a friendly player.

[Jos Elkink]

Your additions generate many comments at Polish Forums. Most people found these restrictions too hard...

Would it be a lot of work to summarize some of those arguments in English? What do you guys think is going too far?

[tiddy ogg]

All seems straightforward. Of course, a good way to stop a lot of the temptation would be to abolish all forums except suggestions and support. *grin*

[WojD]

Would it be a lot of work to summarize some of those arguments in English? What do you guys think is going too far?

No... Please forgive me my poor english...


1. Definitions: what is an 'organization' - is this governement or country or maybe business company?

2. What about existing chars - which are from begining in one organization or place (common situation in old cities in our zone)? Early CR interprertation was less restrictive...

3. What is more important CR or RP? In eg. if 2 chars of same player have RP oportunity to make trade inm one place - should they trade or not if no one is intersted in this trade...

4. Should chars flee when to city coming another char of same player even if this will be also usage od OOC knowledge?

5. Information freedom - some people want to talk and write about game at own websites and have own forums - we try to fight witch such ideas - but many people hate any censorship...

6. Some people ask to liberalise CR and emphasize RP'ing...

7. Most people asking about more Polish staff in PD.

8. Some people talk about OOC knowledge and usage of it in game... If someone know location of island OOC but he was plan to sail in such direction before - what he should do?

And many other problems - more specific for PZ.

[Sho]

I don't see anything there that I haven't seen used before. Fair or not, it's nothing new.