Anarchy

[kroner]

I think the problem was that a vote wasn't required to change the law unless another counciler objected. When my character suggested that he didn't think about the fact that some of the councilers might be away or not logged at the moment. The fragmented views of the council was good but the lack of checks on each individual was not. Just about every specific law that Firecam was against, my character didn't approve of either... although i do find him to be a bit loony and none of my characters share his views on government in general...

[west]

The problem was that council people assumed that whatever they said was law automatically without putting it to a vote...and that's not cool.

[thingnumber2]

sounds like Quillanoi...only they don't even write it down or tell you *prepares for the worst*

Thingnumber. You're not firecam aren't you? Man, he's a fanatic. But everything is better then that "council" in KF. And watch Hvytgh, He's evil.

nah, although I do have a character devoted to anarchy...everyone thinks he's crazy....most of my other characters have their own versions of what a perfect government is, or totally don't care at all...

[watermelonnose]

I dont want to get into a heavy political argument, but as an anarchist IRL, the anarchy movement gets such a bad rep. Were all considered evil terrorists, we supposedly want to 'kill everyone with bombs from the anarchist cookbook' which by the way was not even written by an anarchist. Most of us are just extreme left wing activists, (peaceful), and by no means evil, just very VERY opinionated. Hope I cleared that up for those who aren't familiar with it.

I wouldn't say that most are left wing don't forget about the libertarian / objectivist contingent!

[west]

I've been Ayn Randed nearly branded a Communist, because I'm left handed...That's the hand I use...well, never mind.

[7orp0r]

I dont want to get into a heavy political argument, but as an anarchist IRL, the anarchy movement gets such a bad rep. Were all considered evil terrorists, we supposedly want to 'kill everyone with bombs from the anarchist cookbook' which by the way was not even written by an anarchist. Most of us are just extreme left wing activists, (peaceful), and by no means evil, just very VERY opinionated. Hope I cleared that up for those who aren't familiar with it.

I wouldn't say that most are left wing don't forget about the libertarian / objectivist contingent!

I mean left wing as in opposite like the conservative christians, and left wing is all about change, and we anarchists want some REALLY BIG changes. But you can't forget any art of the movement, I was just generalizing to keep from posting a small novel.

[rklenseth]

I dont want to get into a heavy political argument, but as an anarchist IRL, the anarchy movement gets such a bad rep. Were all considered evil terrorists, we supposedly want to 'kill everyone with bombs from the anarchist cookbook' which by the way was not even written by an anarchist. Most of us are just extreme left wing activists, (peaceful), and by no means evil, just very VERY opinionated. Hope I cleared that up for those who aren't familiar with it.

I wouldn't say that most are left wing don't forget about the libertarian / objectivist contingent!

I mean left wing as in opposite like the conservative christians, and left wing is all about change, and we anarchists want some REALLY BIG changes. But you can't forget any art of the movement, I was just generalizing to keep from posting a small novel.

But what do you change when there is nothing else to change? Do you change what you have already change? Never really understood radicalism.

And the real reason why I am posting is why is my IP address in your sig?

[west]

mine too

big deal.

i didn't know my IP

cool.

[The Hunter]

Hehe. Every page you visit can identifie your IP and provider. Try the nedstat button at the login page. You'll C thesame. And i dont really care cuz i have cable which means that every time i logon my IP adress is different.

Nothing to say ontopic.

[Meh]

I dont want to get into a heavy political argument, but as an anarchist IRL, the anarchy movement gets such a bad rep. Were all considered evil terrorists, we supposedly want to 'kill everyone with bombs from the anarchist cookbook' which by the way was not even written by an anarchist. Most of us are just extreme left wing activists, (peaceful), and by no means evil, just very VERY opinionated. Hope I cleared that up for those who aren't familiar with it.

I wouldn't say that most are left wing don't forget about the libertarian / objectivist contingent!

I mean left wing as in opposite like the conservative christians, and left wing is all about change, and we anarchists want some REALLY BIG changes. But you can't forget any art of the movement, I was just generalizing to keep from posting a small novel.

But what do you change when there is nothing else to change? Do you change what you have already change? Never really understood radicalism.

Yes. The founding fathers were idiots for wanting to change things. Damn fringe groups.

Having no need of further change is a matter of prespective.

[rklenseth]

I dont want to get into a heavy political argument, but as an anarchist IRL, the anarchy movement gets such a bad rep. Were all considered evil terrorists, we supposedly want to 'kill everyone with bombs from the anarchist cookbook' which by the way was not even written by an anarchist. Most of us are just extreme left wing activists, (peaceful), and by no means evil, just very VERY opinionated. Hope I cleared that up for those who aren't familiar with it.

I wouldn't say that most are left wing don't forget about the libertarian / objectivist contingent!

I mean left wing as in opposite like the conservative christians, and left wing is all about change, and we anarchists want some REALLY BIG changes. But you can't forget any art of the movement, I was just generalizing to keep from posting a small novel.

But what do you change when there is nothing else to change? Do you change what you have already change? Never really understood radicalism.

Yes. The founding fathers were idiots for wanting to change things. Damn fringe groups.

Having no need of further change is a matter of prespective.

Actually, I agree with liberalism, just not Radical liberalism of the likes in Europe. Liberalism, for the most part, is very moderate in America. That is why there is so much compromise among people of different political idealogy that Europeans often get confuse and just believe everyone is of the same political idealogy and that most people in America are moderate.

I fully agreed with what the Founding Fathers but I don't agree with the French Revolution and the Liberalism that developed there though I do believe that those bastards nobles deserved everything they got except is that really justice by slaughtering a group of people that have committed crimes against you but back then it was justice. Though somewhat of the same thing happened in America with those loyal to Britain but many times it was stopped and those loyal to the crown were intergrated into American society or they were given free passage to Great Britian (the agreement in the Peace Treaty of Paris that ended the war). In France, it wasn't stopped and in fact encouraged by the leaders of the revolutionist which were wealthy middle class. So you see, right from the start two very different Liberalisms developed in America and in Europe and to two are still very different from one and the other. And I wouldn't really consider Anarchy Liberalism. I think Anarchy is in its own category and not to be confused with extreme Liberalism which is called Radicalism.

[nitefyre]

Well yeah the founding fathers were radicals, that wanted a lot of change, like Sam Adam for instance when dumped a crap load of british east indie tea into a harbour. Thank God we're a lot more moderate nowadays and I agree that the Europeans stereotype us as one group under political policy.

As for the IP adress sig, it has the WRONG isp, since I'm using Compuserve not AOL, (but AOL ownz cs) so uh yeah.

[7orp0r]

If you want the little sign thing in your signature, you can get it from www.danasoft.com.

[ephiroll]

well, with regards to HvyThg, I think every has a little desire to be a dictator, and run a place ruthlessly, but not every has the ability to. Not all dictators are bad, and my usual reference would be Steve in Siom, who does singlehandedly control Siom, I think, and no one minds

Why does everyone think that Steve runs Siom singlehandedly? Who do you think put him in the position he is in? And he's been sleeping for the last two weeks, hope he wakes up.

[rklenseth]

Well yeah the founding fathers were radicals, that wanted a lot of change, like Sam Adam for instance when dumped a crap load of british east indie tea into a harbour. Thank God we're a lot more moderate nowadays and I agree that the Europeans stereotype us as one group under political policy.

As for the IP adress sig, it has the WRONG isp, since I'm using Compuserve not AOL, (but AOL ownz cs) so uh yeah.

The Founding Fathers aren't so as Radical as those that formed in Europe afterwards. At the time they were very Radical but then the French Revolution occurred and the Radicalism that formed there made American Radicalism pale and look Ultra-Conservative.