Suggestions for Weapons and Protection

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Postby SekoETC » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:23 pm

Yeah, lots of tiredness. Though a leather armor wouldn't be that heavy, you get used to it. (No I haven't tried a leather armor, but I remember trying on a leather jacket in a store when I was 12 and it was terribly heavy.)
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Postby lost_b0y » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:38 pm

This is good. That way people would mostly where clothes except when there was danger in the area you could put on your armor. Most Kings didnt wear there armor 24/7 only while going to battle or sometimes to address all the peoples and look imposing. or something like that
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Postby Nalaris » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:22 am

A sword made of some totally out of place, futuristic material, like Adamantium, or Kryptonite!

Actually, I just want to say that I want guns...badly...don't know why. I'll bet it's been said before, but add me to the list of people who want them.
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Postby TatteredShoeLace » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:53 am

Nalaris, please stop trying to force things that are completely unacceptable in this game. We appreciate your energy and excitement on the forum, but you must understand we've heard new players rage over and over for things that are absurd...like nukes, guns, and super mystical things.
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Postby creepyguyinblack » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:06 am

If we had an additional value such as "reliability", also being affected by the current state of a weapons repair, and a method for ammunition, I wouldn't be too against something like a blunderbuss or musket. It'd be an incredibly hard weapon to make, and especially maintain and keep ammo on hand. Also it could be less accurate than other ranged weapons) but have some extra armor penetration.
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Postby TatteredShoeLace » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:11 am

From what I've read though, no weapons currently have armor-piercing abilities. But yes, a difficult unreliable weapon could make sense.
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Postby Pie » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:19 am

........... But easy to use. Seriously, relode, point, and shoot. As easy as that, and hope that the gun was made good.

AND, since guns are a long range thing, you can fire a gun, AND somthing els, like, a gun, and then sabr somone, but not fire a gun, and then fire again.

Makes sence, cindof.
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Postby Nalaris » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:01 pm

The good old muskets weren't anything close to easy to reload.

And I guess I didn't communicate the intention of the Kryptonite sword comment very well without a sarcasm tag.

Furthermore, I'm not attempting to force anything on the game. I'm making suggestions. That's why I'm putting it in the suggestions forum. Do you see the logic? (sarcasm)
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Postby Pie » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:55 pm

BUT, once reloaded, its point, aim, and shoot.

maby you can only fire a musket every two days. But, other than that, point,aim, and shoot.
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Postby lost_b0y » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:49 am

havent you ever seen the last samurai?
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Postby Leo Luncid » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:54 am

I've seen it, and Pie, I bet you haven't, because it shows how a musket is used. An experienced soldier could only make three shots from a musket a minute; heck, longbows are darn easier to use than muskets! Calculating from the Dungeons and Dragons core rulebooks, I think a trained archer could shoot ten arrows a minute. See the difference here? You just pull an arrow from your quiver, pull, aim and shoot. Using a musket you have to, I don't know, put the gun powder into the musket using some stick to put it all the way there, err, try to lit the fuse or something, aim, realize that you got an arrow stuck in your chest, scream "I hate loading!!!" and lie down dead.

:x Seriously, if one is to suggest guns, he or she should realize how long it darn takes to load the first guns back in the days. Sheesh... Sorry, I'm done now... 8)
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Postby Nalaris » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:07 pm

Guns should be half-way impossible to load (maybe requiring an efficient skill level just to use) but should guarantee enough damage to kill (assuming, once again, that you can hit them). Guns would be inefficient unless in the hands of a skilled warrior, and they should be harder to make than a crossbow.
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Postby SekoETC » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:43 pm

No wayyy, you don't need any skill at all to fire a gun. And at close distance you would be likely to hit something as well. To avoid shooting yourself accidentally if you've never seen a gun before might be harder. Old time guns had their disadvantage in slow loading. Besides, Cantr doesn't have the ingredients for gunpowder, yay!
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Postby Pie » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:10 pm

I have to agree that guns should take a long time reloding. BUT, after you'v relodid, point, aim, and shoot. point aim and shoot.*Starts prancing around the town singing a stupid song he just made up named"Just point aim and shoot!!"


and also, With longbows, do you really know how hard it was to learn how to use one of those things? I mean, with guns, even old muskets, you just point, and shoot. With longbows, you have to gues on how far they are, you have to gues how high you should aim, and you have to reaload. REALLY, with longbows AND crossbows, and any other bow used at more than 50 feet away, the acruassey is really down UNLESS you are REALLY a master of the longbow.

So really, combined in with how long it needs to train somone on how to use a gun (Not long really. Just tell them that this wite powder goes in BEFORE the metal ball does, and to pound it with this wite stick, and lite this fuse) And how easy it is to aim at somone, it should be reloaded in, yea, two days. Maby even one. but the acurasy would be WAY doun in any musket.

No seriously. When you shoot a musket, (Before they made the little spinning grooves inside of the barral....) The musket ball could ricoche of of the side of the barral, causing the musket ball to go of the course to the maximum of "Wow... I thought that I shot it at the ballon in front of me... HEY, my foot is starting to hurt. I KNEW I should have used the longbow."

You get the idea. Acurasy doun, and if you win, reloading doun. If that happens, then we might as well not even make the musket. Cous nobody is going to use it if we follow real life.

What i am saying... is that we should make a musket REALLY HARD TO MAKE AND HAVE IT REALLY GOOD OR ELS NOBODY IS GOING TO USE IT!!!
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Postby EchoMan » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:47 pm

When I was nine or ten I built a crossbow from a plank and a fresh branch (yew?) and a string, using only a knife. It shot well over 30 meters (90 feet?) with some accuracy if i got the (wooden) bolts right. I'm sure I could have fired at least four times every minute without rushing things.

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