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Naming Items

Postby Racetyme » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:47 am

This has been suggested before, but I couldn't find it. This would be easy to implement, and it would just make a really cool idea, I think. Mostly used for weapons and shields, it would allow for legacies and marks of distinction. Honestly, who wouldn't want "Romanov's Flame" or such. These marks would have to be unchangeable and be put on the weapon when all the pieces were assembled in the last stage. I just think this would create an interesting new dynamic, plus I really want to make myself a famous sword and try to make it famous. :D
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Postby Lumin » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:12 am

I like it. :)

But my variation on that would be that there could be a special tool and project for engraving any metal weapon after it's built. Engraving might become a specialized business of its own. So you could have your new sword made and then pay to have it individualized afterwards, or say a beloved king with a regular saber dies, his subjects decide to have his name engraved into it and pass it to the next king.
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Postby kabl00ey » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:26 am

I totally agree with Lumin. Every Cantrian and their do...I mean, wild boar, will have a sword named "The Destroyer!" or something. They won't be special, they'll be derivative and annoying. Having a cost and needed particular skills/tools will mean you have to go out of your way to make that special mace, which you wouldn't do unless you were either rich or, well, the weapon was special to you.
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Postby InsaneIrony » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:16 am

It would be awesome if the Sheep's Wrath mace could actually have it's name on it... Or imagine, a couple that trades wedding shields, with their date of marriage and spouse's name written on it. ;)
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Postby Lumin » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:20 am

There's a Sheep's Wrath mace? :lol:

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Postby Racetyme » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:46 am

Ok, I do like that suggestion better, but this should not be like houses and boats where the name can be changed, once an engraving is made it is final, otherwise people would ruin the authenticity of it.
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Postby SekoETC » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:32 am

It should be like in Nethack.
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Postby formerly known as hf » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:04 pm

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Rogue knocks the pants of it though

As for naming items, it should either read something like:
You see her holding:
* An Iron Shield
* A Claymore (engraved with "Buffalo Mincer")


Which should be a project, requiring whatever tools it takes to engrave a claymore, to add that extra detail

Or it should be dynamic, and, unlike buildings or place names, and like character names, so it would read:
You see her holding:
* An Iron Shield
* A Claymore
And the whole item can be named, so you could name it
The Buffalo Mincer (A Claymore)
Dynamic naming shouldn't require a project

Personally, if dynamic naming is used for items, that might be interesting, someone could go about inventing a whole new langauge and somehow force others to use it.

1300-1: You see a man in his fifties point to a man in his twenties
1300-1: a man in his fifties says: "Go and repair that geezard"
1300-1: a man in his twenties says: "What's a geezard?"
1300-1: a man in his fifties says: "It's that, next to the hoosamawhatsit"
1300-1: a man in his twenties says: "I don't know what that is either"
1300-1: a woman in her sixties says: "Just get to work you two, or you'll find me shoving my sharp elastoid up your

personally I prefer the idea of engraving something as a project - and it could be anythig, not just a weapon...
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Postby Racetyme » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:43 pm

Why can't we have this implemented, so far no one has disagreed with it. (plus I wanted it up at the top again)
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Postby Sho » Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:54 am

You've been here long enough to know that suggestions don't get accepted that quickly, ever, regardless of consensus and general awesomeness. You can blame the staff for that, if you like, though personally I think it's a good thing that they leave ideas alone for a while to cool.
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Postby Nick » Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:04 am

Not to mention that getting accepted and implemented often have years of wait in between.
And just because people agree does not make it a good decision or mean it should be implemented.
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Postby Racetyme » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:39 am

If that is the case what is wrong with this particular one? I do understand that stuff get's done slowly around here, don't jump on me, I still wanted it up at the top of suggestions.
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Postby Nick » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:16 am

I think this has been shot down before because then each item in Cantr would have to have another database entry for the engraving. It would slow down Cantr a lot.

Or that's what I remember.
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Postby Racetyme » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:40 am

There should be a way to code it so that the name issue is ignored, unless there is a name. That way it wouldn't slow it up too badly.
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Postby Nick » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:51 am

It would still have to check whether or not there is a name.
And there would still have to be a field whether it's empty or not.

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