Much more modular production

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Much more modular production

Postby Surly » Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:04 pm

I heard rumours of this actually happening... but then it stalled. I think it would be good (for example) to be able to produce "medium wooden handles" and "pickaxe heads", that don't deteriorate, that could then be finished into a pickaxe.

I think this would provide more motivation to manufacture tools, as back stocks of non-rotting tool parts could be made... the tools would still rot in the same ludicrous was as before, but businesses wouldn't be totally handicapped by item rot
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Postby warfreak » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:49 am

surly, that is a good idea but things do detoriate, but after a long time, say a cantr year. However, i still like it when you could produce in one go. Its annoying and more time wasting if we have to build the parts, then you the parts to build the tool
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Postby Surly » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:11 am

The thought behind what I said, is that item rot is killing tool production. There is no point in having stocks of any tool, because they just rot away. It is impossible to have more than, say, 6 iron based tools and keep them in good shape without spending your entire time repairing them. The rates are just stupid... by all means have tools rot over 50 years, but I just spent 28(!) hours repairing my sword and it requires another hour's repair 2 days later.

Modular production would allow businesses to function. Otherwise the entire mistake that was item rot will continue to cripple Cantr.
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Postby SekoETC » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:36 am

Put them on repair projects, that stops deterioration...
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Postby Surly » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:20 pm

That, I feel, is somewhat manipulating the system... I'd much rather have a smith who could sell premade pickaxe heads.
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Postby Nick » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:00 am

Fully repair something, start a project for -0 hours and then when you want the item, just work on the project and its instantaneously finished.

I assumed this was a feature..
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Postby Jos Elkink » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:19 pm

It's not a feature, it's a bug ...
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Postby Savanik » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:59 pm

Jos Elkink wrote:It's not a feature, it's a bug ...


Then how should tool deterioration work, Jos? :)

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Postby Savanik » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:41 am

I really am going to have to back up Surly on this one. It's not that we mind the tools rotting, per say - it's just that they're rotting very, very fast. It's almost impossible to have any sort of 'stockpile' of tools, because they need someone actively maintaining all the tools and keeping them in repair.

On the other hand, food doesn't rot at all... erm. :)

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Postby kinvoya » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:09 am

Yeah! Anthony said several times that he was going fix the INSANELY HIGH RATE OF TOOL REPAIR but I haven't noticed any difference at all. Without this "bug" all my chars would be insane by now. They would probably be throwing old disintegrating tools at random strangers and screaming about how the screwdrivers are trying to control their thoughts.

We've been very patient. This is one of the things that needs to be fixed, please, and don't just say Anthony has to do it. He obviously isn't going to.
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Postby Pie » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:54 pm

eh, Whe could always just make some sort of paint out of gold, and paint the iron sheild so it whouldn't rot away, BUTTHIS IDEA IS ALOT BETTER!
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Postby SekoETC » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:56 pm

This isn't about repairs and deterioration, it's about modular production. Though you know what would be cool, modular deterioration. When your bow gets old you might have to change the bowstring or it might snap but the arch would stay in good shape much longer.
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Postby Surly » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:59 pm

That would be the logical continuation of modular production, Seko... and I think that would be great, as long as individual parts don't deteriorate... only when they are part of the finished tool.
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Postby Nick » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:30 pm

Things should only deteriorate with use. If I leave a brand new hammer in my room for 10 years, it will still be in brand new shape if I haven't touched it.

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