Coin Presses

[Solfius]

Maybe a two machine device. A press that is genric and a stamp {a.k.a a plate} that is specific. The stamps would have a game generated serial number that would be on every coin stamped. To make a stamp that is identical to an existing one would require the serial number found on any coin combined with maybe a special tool or luck roll for conterfitting.

I like this idea

[Solfius]

the cion pres is an great idea,but it should be kept simple,one kind of press with different stamps,using more resources for higher denominations,with the money being made from metal resources,the only way you should be able to build one though is if the town you are in has 20 buildings or so,when its built thats it, only one per town,and the money that comes out should automaticcly be imprinted with the town name and amount,by making it only for the bigger towns it would be an advance for the town for the hard work involved in building up a city like that.this way would take the couterfiet deal out,anyway it should nt be easy for everybody to just start making money named any thing they like

more materials for more money isn't a good idea, just because coins which are worth more tend to be bigger in real life doesn't mean they can't be smaller

[swymir]

I think they should just get the whole money press thing down before they worry about counterfits.

I agree with there being a cerial number for every coin that is printed with the press. This way a coin from another press would look diffrent (I.e. have a diffrent number)

[Camino]

Totaly agree having coin presses as a reward for big towns doesn't sound very good and takes something away from it all because its not just about constructing buildings, a town with lots of people yet very few buildings would then obviously be excluded.

The serial number would be great and having a cast iron way of preventing counterfiets would be dull anyway, go with a generic press and the stamps much better way of doing it all I would of thought.

[Solfius]

I agree, I would like to see the basic press (which would press unpersonalised coins) only needing iron, stone, and wood.

The personalised plates would need steel.

[thingnumber2]

How bout this? For the personalized one, all you have to do is study the press for a certain amount of time, like a project, and when you are done,you can print an identical coin on your own machine. This way people could allow others to study it, to help increase the output of coins or somthing, and if you wanted to counterfeit, just break in while they are gone, or sneak in and steal the blueprint, that way, if you wanted to prevent counterfeiting, you have to protect your press, but I'm sure some clever people would figure out how to get to them.

[watermelonnose]

The important aspect of any money system is that the money needs to store value be portable and be widely accepted. Just printing notes or coins doesn't necessarly accomplish this. Money doesn't have to be created or controlled by government. Usually when governments get involved with money the system gets totally screwed up.

[Camino]

I think getting people to accept the money wouldn't be to difficult because all they would have to do is decide how much they think it is worth, because if they can't do anything with this currency then its pointless but get enough shops or towns to accept a currency and the problem is solved.

Once that happens all we have to think is what to call a particular currency and what to stamp on them, I think a winkler would be rather good it has a nice ring "get your bread only a winkler..." yes very nice.

[Meh]

Well if were supposed to be "modern" and all, why have currency or coin?
Just some kind of central book keeping in a town or region that kept track of who owes and has what. The central book keeping place could issue a set of control numbers like random check number that people could use up or something.

I dunno, where are the cell phones to tell the central bank to move Cantr money from your account to mine?

It could be a game function like credits but I prefer a character controlled banking system. Easier to embezzile {sp?} that way.

[sillysavage1]

If the programers do decide to go with this then, here is something that may help in your decisions.

Coin Dies

Manufactured and engraved for the purpose of making promotional coins or quality medallions to commemorate or celebrate or special event, person, place or thing.

Mold Inserts

Cavities or cores engraved to your specifications.

Able to engrave on contours, angles, and hard to get to areas.

Inspection Stamps

A steel stamp with raised letters or logo used to mark a product.

These stamps are used with a hammer with no press needed.

Stamping Dies

Steel die with sharp raised letters, logo or design for marking your parts with a sunk impression that will not wear off.

These dies are designated for use in a press.

Roll Dies

Raised lettering engraved around the circumference of a steel roll for the purpose of roll making your parts.

Hobb Dies

A positive die or right reading die, used for the purpose of hobbing many working dies.

Hot Stamping Dies

Are flat faced stamp used mainly for the marking in wood, plastic, or cork.

Also used for Hot Foil Stamping.

Made mainly of brass or steel if specified.

Embossing Dies

Made from steel or aluminum. Used to raise an image above surface of material. An embossing die has two parts, a male side and a female side.

[watermelonnose]

It would be good just to have a stamp that a character could impress on a note. A seal to prevent forgeries. Wax impression or something. I think that a money system shouldn't be programmed into the game all we need is the tools for the characters to develop one.

[Solfius]

a coin press is a tool for the chars to use to make a system.

You'd be able to turn any metal into a coin, so it's up to places what worth to give each coin, especially if you make coins with different marks

[watermelonnose]

Coins could be used as money, but if their only backing is the government the money system will be weak and prone to abuse. The coins themselves have little intrinsic value. It would be great to be able to have a competing money system. The one I am thinking about would only need non-forge able notes to work.

[Solfius]

that's a game issue to be dealt with in game. I have ideas that would give coins a value. Stamps for envelopes are on the cards, which will make sealing envelopes a lot better, but I think both options should be possible: coin press and envelopes.

[watermelonnose]

Yes I agree with both options coins and sealing notes. Coins had value traditionally because the metal was in short supply and the demand was high. On Earth gold fit the bill but in Cantr what metal fits that description? Gold seems to be in short supply but what about its demand?