Inappropriate Rape?

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Postby Nick » Tue May 17, 2005 6:23 am

west wrote:In any case, the use of private whispers to convey events is not good. I don't think it's realistic at all...


note: that shouldn't just apply to sex, either

You shouldnt be able to not see something someone does because they whispered what they did.
Doesn't that sound stupid?
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Postby west » Tue May 17, 2005 6:24 am

Of course.
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Postby Oasis » Tue May 17, 2005 6:31 am

I am not condoning rp'ing sex in extensive public whispers, out of doors in a public place.

I am stating that there should be no sexual rp out loud, from a PD standpoint. Not my opinion on what is right or wrong logistically, or morally.
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Postby west » Tue May 17, 2005 6:45 am

As it stands now, yes. I agree with you. I certainly don't want to hear that. I was speaking of ideal situations.
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Postby Snake_byte » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:06 pm

Doodle_Jack wrote:Is it that hard to make a rule saying something like: "Because of ethical reasons, raping in-game is not allowed."???
I say forbid it.


I've never roleplayed this sort of thing however I've seen others run into town screaming of rape.

Doodle Jack, just be cause it's unethical doesn't mean it should be banned. Murder and theft are also unethical. Ban those? No I don't think so.
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Postby Genevieve » Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:00 am

west wrote:I'm tired of seeing a page and a half of "you see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties" and vice versa, and knowing they're RPing something in private that ordinarily would be glaringly obvious, and more than a little indecent.


And I am tired of people assuming that a page and a half of "you see a man in his twenties talking to a woman in her twenties" and vice vesa actually means they are doing more than talking.

My characters.....*gasp, shock* ACTUALLY TALK IN PRIVATE!!! OMG! I know, hard to believe. I simply prefer to speak privately unless the whole world needs to know what I am saying. Thus, often, that is probably what you see. And no, that doesn't mean my character is having sex with the other character, except on rare occasions, instead it simply means they are having a private conversation, whispered if you will.
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Postby El_Skwidd » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:12 am

What I whisper depends on what it is I have between asterisks.

If it's something like *his tone of voice changes to grave*, that will be whispered.

But, if it's something like *pats his stomach* I'll break my whispering and say that out loud.

So, if I ever did RP sex or intimate relations, it would be in a building. A locked one.
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Postby Snake_byte » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:41 am

Makes sense to me
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Postby west » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:55 pm

That's what locked buildings are FOR. That's why there's skeezy motels.
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Postby black knight » Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:16 am

that man and woman in twenties could be disscussing endless possiblities that they think are not appropraite to be said out loud...
-they could be having a casual chat... they don't prefer screaming so that the whole twon hears, they want to keep it to them selves...
-they could be disscussing trade, many poeple disscuss trade in private, if a man is trading with a woman, i don't see why it should be assumed as having sex...
-they could be plotting against someone... now no one in there right minds would say such things aloud...
-they could be thieves and planning their moves or strategy....
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-they might be having sex....

there are endless possibililties, these and so many more i couldn't think of rght now...
from so many possibilities, why do we have to choose the last one... :shock: :?
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Postby Nixit » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:07 pm

Yeah, that sort of thing happened to one of my characters recently in fact.
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Postby SekoETC » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:15 pm

Ummm... yeah. But this topic is not about people having sex - well, in the healthy meaning of the word.

The original thought was about these people who come raping other people's characters without giving the player time to reply, thus molesting their characters in a totally unlogical fashion. Since you should always be able to reply and react.

And there's the problem of letting a player see shocking written material, even if it was well written, and a rape in public is rarely an invisible, silent action. Now that I think about it, a "good" way (sorry for the selection of words, couldn't figure out any other) to do it would be to go to a person in private, rp grabbing them or pulling a knife at them and dragging them towards a road or a building. If the player is ok with it, they will move the character. If not, they should reply in public, rp struggling and screaming and breaking free.

In public rp, sex and genitals should never be mentioned. Since even if the player you were targeting it to was ok with it, you cannot check the opinion and maturity of all the people in town, or walking down a path. However rp:ing wrestling with someone, hugging, kissing, tackling etc should be ok. Some things are on the edge, like breasts, I think breasts should be ok but nipples goes to the private section. <- Personal opinion.

I once saw a young man squeezing a woman's breasts in Brunoi. Things like that happen there quite often actually, just usually it's in whispers and most people don't realize what's going on. Anyway he got killed. Looks like in most of Cantr, crappy offensive rp is pure suicidal behaviour.

Edit: One thing more, if a man is lying on top of a woman, a spectator at a distance can't see what's happening between these people. He may see "ok this guy is moving his hips and is wearing nothing worth mentioning", but unless he's really close, he cannot see if the guy is really humping the girl or just trying to.
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Postby ratm » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:55 am

I don't know, I'm all for not restricting what's done on Cantr, but rape just seems...wrong. I can't quite explain it. It feels disrespectful to rape victims to RP it. I don't know, may not be rational, but my just my 2 cents. I figure if it's really necessary to RP it, or if players really want to:
*Pushes her against a wall*
Now, the second player can either say something like
*Struggles out of his grasp* or
*Tries to escape but is unable to*
That way all the players have a choice as to whether they want their chars to go on or not. Then, if the first char persists after the player has made it clear they don't want their char to be raped, PD time :twisted:
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Postby Racetyme » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:19 am

Sorry everybody, but this is just not a situation that is really controllable. The only thing you can do is ignore it if it is rediculous, sometimes you have to be OOC. If you have an iron shield and a crossbow, the rapist is naked and unarmed, simply attack him and ignore it. There is no other solution, we sure as hell can't ban sex in cantr, and we can't monitor every little private exchange. Just take it as it comes, and play it realistically, even if it means just saying something lame and out of character to insult the player, frankly they deserve it. If ever my little Angelina is unrealistically raped, they will recieve a message basically on par with "That couldn't possibly have happened, but while we are at it, I can do approximately the same thing. *edited because I am too damn funny*
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Postby kinvoya » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:30 am

We don't need your graphic descriptions. This forum is supposed to be PG-13 last I heard.
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