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Postby g1asswa1ker » Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:53 pm

OK peoples I don't get it why is it you all seem to think that this simulator has anything to do with real world physics or time lines. You can't remove something that is already there. Change it alter it even make it harder to get but you can't remove it. It would make things confusing.

I mean hell if you want to argue history lines we missed the bronze age...
But we didn't cause cantr never had a bronze age. Cause cantr is it's own reality. It's unque. Governed by it's own laws and rules. Have any of you actually sat down as your charactor and thought of their world. Goddess help me.
I still am not trying to insult anyone. I just find it infurating to see people continuly stating should this be that based off our history. Cantr doesn't have our history. It has it's history. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby nitefyre » Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:59 pm

g1asswa1ker wrote:OK peoples I don't get it why is it you all seem to think that this simulator has anything to do with real world physics or time lines. You can't remove something that is already there. Change it alter it even make it harder to get but you can't remove it. It would make things confusing.

I mean hell if you want to argue history lines we missed the bronze age...
But we didn't cause cantr never had a bronze age. Cause cantr is it's own reality. It's unque. Governed by it's own laws and rules. Have any of you actually sat down as your charactor and thought of their world. Goddess help me.
I still am not trying to insult anyone. I just find it infurating to see people continuly stating should this be that based off our history. Cantr doesn't have our history. It has it's history. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Wherever I go, I always seem to pick an argument. =\
I was just stating my opinion, I don't want cantr changed at all. Just saying its technologies are all over the friggen place.

So as to please your royal g1asswalker, I suggest we make a motorcycle. =/


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Postby g1asswa1ker » Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:10 pm

:evil: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not Royalty....I made a suggestion on the Motorcycle...
:evil: Ewwwww!!!!!!!
NiTeFyRe, You just like pushing my buttons...
Someday I'm just going to explode why cause your going to find that one button that does it...
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Postby Anthony Roberts » Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:56 pm

But, but, you need to see. Cantr is a different world, and society development doesn't follow any rules (Ie: Swords don't NEED to be invented after Clubs. Metal COULD of been invented first, and clubs came AFTER Swords - No rules) - So, the way Cantr is, is the way Cantr should stay :D
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Postby Nick » Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:24 pm

@Nitefyre: I think you pissed Asswalker off...

Back on topic, houseboats would be cool, even better if you could dock at them, or build some sort of signal system like a lighthouse for it. Or even resources you could get from the water like... well.. water, salt, oil, fish... stuff like that.
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Postby nitefyre » Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:42 pm

Nick wrote:@Nitefyre: I think you pissed Asswalker off...

Back on topic, houseboats would be cool, even better if you could dock at them, or build some sort of signal system like a lighthouse for it. Or even resources you could get from the water like... well.. water, salt, oil, fish... stuff like that.


@Nick. No doubt at all I did. :lol:

Good idea, getting water, salt and oil and fish from a house boat would be awesome. What about docking 2 houseboats or more together to make a town on the sea. =?
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Postby g1asswa1ker » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:42 am

@NiTeFyRe, No you haven't pissed me off. Vex me a little yes but that is the point in a discussion. In fact I rather like the fact that we disagree on things we do have some rather interesting discussions, between each other. This actually makes a good team as we both see things in a different point of view. We both seem to be very open minded while still holding our views and willig to accept defeat should one point out things differently. Yes I know blah blah blah but it's true.

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blimps, dirigibles, zeppelins, hot air balloons

Postby Fleegle » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:33 pm

The idea of some kind of rigid or non-rigid lighter-than-air flying machine sounds good to me. They are not so terribly modern that they ruin the "feel" of the game, and they would not be super-fast like a jet or something like that. I envision running a dirigible service, trading fares for resources etc. and flying people to various parts.

On another note, a simple blimp or hot-air balloon is the kind of aircraft that is plausible to have been built from scratch and a fairly low tech-level, at least moreso than an airplane, or helicopter, or jet.
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Postby Pie » Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:10 pm

quite soo. if the darigible... zepling... could go over whatet.. it would be AWESOM! but it would need an engin... or just a bysicle thing...

i actually like the idea of a city at sea. or... a pirat haven at sea... or.. well you get it.
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Postby LordLemos » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:12 am

I would like to reopen this to talk more about trains. I think that we have cars but the train had come before the cars. The work needed to make a railroad and to build the train could make the travel time easier. but the question is: how could drive the train? someone with the key?
Things that I think about it:
need a lot of iron and wood to make the railroad;
need a lot of iron to make the train;
need a lot of iron and wood to make the others wagon;
Use a coal to move it or gas;
What you guys think about it?

And sorry for the really bad english, I just need to get some sleep.
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Postby marginoferror » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:35 am

I am very interested in the idea of trains!
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Postby Trezker » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:52 am

Trains should also be made so that they revolutionize inland trading routes.

If possible you should be able to make a train go straight from one place to another without stopping in the places in between.
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Postby trexdino » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:35 pm

Trains woud be cool, but if you already had a car, I wouldn't build a train. Maybe to throw in an extra advantage o trains that cars don't have. Because in real life, trains are slower than cars most of the time, and take a lot more to build.
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Postby marginoferror » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:42 pm

I would say that trains take less to build, or at least less technology - engines have to be built primarily from iron but can run on coal instead of gasoline; cars can be built entirely out of wood except for the iron wheels (which don't require rubber). There are even (often illegal, privately operated) trains in Cambodia nowadays that are built almost entirely out of bamboo, sometimes even including the wheels.

Furthermore train cars can easily support cabins, and all of the machines that you can build in cabins now on large ships.

The expensive part is, obviously the rails.
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Postby Tiamo » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:37 pm

The main advantage of trains over cars would be the really big storage capacity. Trains can go faster than cars over a longer distance, because they can ride during the night.
Apart from the track some kind of railway station would be needed, so trains can pass each other, and wagons can be rearranged. Laying tracks in mountain and swamp areas would be more expensive, needing bridges or track dykes.

Steam engines need quite some water apart from the coal. Water reservoirs are a key part of early railway stations.

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