Clothing deterioration

[Mack]

If tools and weapons deteriorate why not clothes too? Over time with age they can start to fall apart needing repairs. Clothes that once looked nice could start to look all patched up

You see a man in his twenties split his pants

then you'd have to repair them

[Snake_byte]

Maybe attacks can have an affect on it too. I usually just Rp rips in my clothing though.

[Mack]

Good addition Snake_Byte....makes sense

[EchoMan]

11 of my characters, in one voice : "Oh no!!! Not more repairs."

I like the idea, but maybe the overall deterioration should be tweaked down a little, if there is a whole new range of items you need to find time to repair.

[Arenti]

I agree with that it will only mean more repairing. Though of course it would be more realistic. So I'm not sure if I agree with this idea or not.

[Mack]

I would say that the the deterioration rates would be lower than it is with tool. Now if they could set it that clothes would also be affected by the work a char does, could lead to a whole new way to look at clothing. If you wear a dress to dig silver, you will ruin you cloths. if you wear basic clothing and use a smelter, again your clothes will deteriorate quickly. But if you wear a leather apron, it wont deteriorate as quick.

But the rate can't be the same as tools and weapons or we'd spend more time repairing than working

[SekoETC]

Repairing should take cloth or yarn and a needle. If the damage was small and the tailor sufficiently skilled, the fix could be invisible or it would at least appear as "neatly patched" in the description. Decent fixes would just show up as "patched" and awkward fixes as "crudely patched". A skilled tailor could also take a crudely patched item and improve it up to the neatly patched description but the patched status couldn't be gotten rid of after it had once been created. Unless it was possible to patch unbroken clothes to make them look shabbier than they actually are, but that would require preserving the original deterioration status. If patches were stored as separate items and used the attached field to link them to the clothing objects, they could even have their own deterioration status - but that would get pretty complicated.

[chase02]

You must have been reading my thoughts today, Mack! I was thinking the exact same thing.

I don't think it needs quite so much detail, just mimic weapons/tools but replace 'used' with 'dirty' or 'old' type labels. Repairing fixes back to 'brand new' or similar.

And, I hate this idea, most of my girly chars enjoy getting filthy (RP only) in their perfect white dresses. It's like my trademark. Embrace chaos.

[Surly]

Honestly, I would only think this was a good idea if clothing manufacturing times were significantly restructured. As it stands, the time taken to make so-called "luxury items" is too high anyway, let alone if we start deteriorating things.

That said, I think we should deteriorate & repair/clean clothes and reduce the build times.

[catpurr]

Honestly, I would only think this was a good idea if clothing manufacturing times were significantly restructured. As it stands, the time taken to make so-called "luxury items" is too high anyway, let alone if we start deteriorating things.

That said, I think we should deteriorate & repair/clean clothes and reduce the build times.

I agree with that, I also consider the redicolous highened effort to create "luxury items" unnecessary and doesn't add anything to the RP or the interestingness of the game.

As posted recently, instead of 2 wooden banks you could nearly make a longboat as well.

[Rob Maule]

I think that clothing deterioration is a good idea, but I'd rather they have a useful mechanic beforehand. Even if it were as simple as a certain number of items required to be worn to prevent a particular sickness.

As for the mechanics of repairing them, something similar to the current tool repair would be fine. If a system of "expertly repaired", etc. clothing was put in place, I think there should first be "expertly made" clothing.

[Mack]

You must have been reading my thoughts today, Mack! I was thinking the exact same thing.

I don't think it needs quite so much detail, just mimic weapons/tools but replace 'used' with 'dirty' or 'old' type labels. Repairing fixes back to 'brand new' or similar.

And, I hate this idea, most of my girly chars enjoy getting filthy (RP only) in their perfect white dresses. It's like my trademark. Embrace chaos.

You stalk my posts, I read your mind Behold, the power of the Wolf lol.
I am glad you all like the idea, and I admit, the system would need a little tweaking, to make this do-able....but it would make tailors more popular as they could trade out clothing, plus a small fee and instead of making new clothes they'd just have to repair them

[chase02]

My actual line of thought, while listening to a room of engineers talk about trouser legs and ripping skirts off [chutes] was more 'well hey, because clothes don't deteriorate, they are not rare, so clothes have no perceived value and tailoring is not a practical trade'.

That's why I think they need rot.

And because I'm awesome.

[Mack]

And because I'm awesome.

You really are

But you did bring up a good point. This would allow tailors to also work as a laundry of sorts. Instead of washing clothes, they would be repairing them.

[Dudel]

Cloths are already pointless unless you wish to add to RP. This would just shy certain types of people away from using them.