Babies and children

[Riddrev]

True.
Perhaps not silk, it might leak.
What sort of R rating does this game have? R13?

[SekoETC]

Though it was already said that babies wouldn't need diapers because even adult Cantrians have shown no sign of pooping and peeing, there is also a second reason why not. Cantr is mostly quite primitive if not counting vehicles. Most people are running around with bone tools and probably butt naked. = Savages. Now in primitive cultures no one used diapers. Against common knowledge babies can be tought to control their bladder even before they can walk. The reason why babies so often pee when they are being changed is that it is uncomfortable for them to feel the wet cloth against their skin, they can't know how long they'll have to suffer from it if they wet themselves so they naturally pee when they're bare. Also babies express with sounds and expressions when they feel like peeing, nowadays mothers just don't know their kids good enough to notice or understand those hints. The baby doesn't want to wet himself, he's telling his mommy to remove the diaper before he can't hold any longer. Babies can be tought to pee on command by teaching them a signal (hissing).

[west]

a new tactical weapon?

[SekoETC]

LOL "Stand back, this baby is loaded!"

[Riddrev]

"You see a man in his fifties hurt a lion using a baby"

[mikki]

Well the way that I look at it is this... they can get married, have sex but yet can't produce off spring... I know that a few of my characters have lost their loved ones.. I would have loved to play it to where they had children and I really can't wait until it is implemented..

I do have to agree that the way they are played should depend on their age and the strength that they receive at that particular stage in life..

Well I have said my little bit about it and I hope it makes a little bit of sense because I know what I mean but for some reason I have a hard time explaining what it is that I mean...

[Katrina]

I'm kinda glad we don't poo......

Could you imagine that?

You see a woman in her twenties crap herself.

But the major problem with babies is how fast they age, and at what point they should be player controlled. When will 2.0 be out!!??

[UloDeTero]

I haven't read the whole thread (who has? it 23 pages!!), but there are a lot of ideas here I like, and a lot that are just too complicated. Let's look at this simply:
Everyone should start the game in the same way. Right now everyone starts off at 20yrs. Why should there now be different classes of starters: Babies and Spawns? That's just nutty! But no-one wants to play as a 2 year old either. So how about this:

A male character and a female character complete a 'Baby' project. The baby that results is a kind of object which needs food (maybe special food), and possibly needs other things like cleaning... Names are given by the parents (at any stage in the child's life before 10).
At 10, the child is sent to the local school (perhaps in certain towns) to be educated. There the child-character is matched up with a player to play him. The player/character learns basic info about Cantr in this school (like a boarding school) until, say, 15. This allows them to experience a school-life and make friends while there. When they return home, they are a fully formed character and can try to get to know their parents properly. Also, certain jobs, responsibilities, etc will not be given to anyone under 18 (maybe 20).

This would be ideal to introduce people who are new to RP (like me), and Cantr (also me), while not requiring them to live through a really long childhood. Perhaps people who are comfortable with RP and Cantr could skip straight to the 'leaving school' stage at 15, and be matched straight away.

(I know 10 is a little old to still need caring for, but perhaps at about 5 the baby 'object' could convert to an autonomous NPC which follows the parents around or something...?)

Well, thats what I think anyway.

[El_Skwidd]

Welcome to Cantr.

Only problem I have with that is that it would make schools mandatory if a town wanted to have any children. Nobody says that you have to go to school besides the law. In Cantr there is no law unless it's enforced by the players, so that'd be like bringing an OOC concept into the programming. Which is bad.

The idea of matching a child up with a player after a period of automation is a good one, but doing it at a school is not.

Sorry to slam you on the first post of yours I've ever read but I'm among the lot of us that want to see this implemented right. So it's all in the spirit of Cantr

[swymir]

I have always believed that there should be two categories. If everyone started out as a child (assuming this gets implemented with restrictins to what the character can do, which I've always disagreed with) no new player is going to have any fun. But adding an extra form on the character creation which gives the player the option of starting as a baby instead of as an adult would make eneryone happy. We need to remember that not everyone likes the idea of starting as a baby.

[Crosshair]

I always thought that at the stage of character creation, one would be asked if they would like to be so and sos character child. By this i mean a system implemented where characters who wish to have children send an email to the relevant person stating thus, and have their name added to a list. This would then randomly select a person who is creating a new character, and ask them if they would like to be the child of this person. Personally i think the more experienced RPers should get first pick, as we dont want the application of a child wasted by a suicidal newspawn... Damn, i'm a snob.

This would add the realistic approach, and still leave the posibility to spawn as a fully grown twenty year old...

[Pie]

.......

BABYS JUST HIDE UNTIL TWENTY

Yea.... i don't know exactly what he said... but it was somthing like that.

[Crosshair]

Hehe... the spelling gives away the fact that it wasnt Exactly What he said

[theguy]

I cannot be botherd to reAD it but sorry this has been suggested thosends of times and there just is no way of implementing it without beging disgused, rude or anything the eggs idea was o.k. but then some guy decied the eggs should be eateble no never in your dreams!!

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[SekoETC]

Let's face it, babies come out of a Woman's PUSSY!! Yes, a man and a woman have intercourse and the man stuffs his spooge into the woman's vagina, and ejaculates and then two cells meet and start doubling at an alarming rate. First there's just a wee ball but then it starts GROWING and it looks like a piece of shrimp's tail and then it looks like an alien maggot and eventually more like a humanoid, exept that it's tiny. Though some aliens are tiny too.


(Now this is a dead child... at least I hope so.)

Then the time of birth comes and the mother is in intense pain for a day, sometimes two. You're lucky if you get in a third of a day, now that's fast. But here comes the baby, splitting the mother's vagina to the edge of it's limits and beyond. Wish I could find a picture of that, it's truely gruesome. But that stage is over relatively fast. And here we have a new tiny person, covered in white.. lint sort of stuff, sometimes blood too, and this new person screams in pain as it's lungs fill with air for the first time. And it will scream more if it feels itself threatened, which often happens



Imagine if you were pushed out of your home of nine months into the cold strange world. Instead of soothing darkness there were blinding lights and weird voices, someone grabbed you from the legs and hung you upside down, gave you a swat on the back. Your back has been bent for a long time as you were growing inside a pouch of meat that wouldn't quite meet your standards, and suddenly your spine is forced to straighten, and you are put on a cold metal table for examination - now doesn't that sound like an alien abduction?



And the parents might look at this screaming, red, messy creature, who'se skull is a bit flattened by all the squeezing it has gone through. And they say, "Oh (s)he's so BEAUTIFUL!" And everything in this little creature is a miracle, it's so tiny and yet it has all the parts there, just in a miniature size.



People have a built-in instict to take care of babies, be them human or animal or drawings...





And what's the point here? That when you look at the act of giving birth without emotion, it does seem horrible. But the result makes it all worth while.