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Postby theguy » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:17 pm

*Wiro wrote:All I can suggest is let it go. I'm often sad about character's I lost. Like one who got killed because Rigel can't read. *Shrugs.* Getting angry or sad or whatever about it ain't gonna change anything.


But trying to come up with some realistic suggestions to improve it might *shrugs shoulders* I dont know, need a think.
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Postby *Wiro » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:19 pm

I've tried and tried again, and all you can do is repeat and tell others. There'll always be powergamers though, sadly. Cantr is supposedly made to be that way. Which is, indeed, an impossible combination.
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Postby theguy » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:24 pm

*Wiro wrote:I've tried and tried again, and all you can do is repeat and tell others. There'll always be powergamers though, sadly. Cantr is supposedly made to be that way. Which is, indeed, an impossible combination.


Thing is I would be so much less annoyed if any of the following happened

1. power players didn't exist
2.I knew why this random gang attacked the town
3.I had at least some time before I died

Its REALLY annoying, I mean it makes me question the whole of cantr its like whats the point of trying if I could lose it anytime, I was prepared to lose characters and am not going to quit this time but I really dont think this kind of play should be tolerated.
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Postby catpurr » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:25 pm

theguy, I'm really feeling sorry for you char. I can understand, if it been my main char I'd be very angry too. And I did see what happened to yours :-(

If this wasn't violance for the pure sake of it, it was an ethnic cleansing. One of the most evil things there is, much more evil than "simple" murder.
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Postby theguy » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:28 pm

catpurr wrote:theguy, I'm really feeling sorry for you char. I can understand, if it been my main char I'd be very angry too. And I did see what happened to yours :-(

If this wasn't violance for the pure sake of it, it was an ethnic cleansing. One of the most evil things there is, much more evil than "simple" murder.


Ethnic cleansing? Would you mind pm'ing me about what happened or after the 3 days? It would help me to play my other charries better if I understood more about this one.
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Postby catpurr » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:32 pm

I don't know any more than you. I'm just guessing that maybe it was one group that wanted to get rid of english-speaking characters.
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Postby IHaveNoLegs » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:36 pm

catpurr wrote:If this wasn't violance for the pure sake of it, it was an ethnic cleansing. One of the most evil things there is, much more evil than "simple" murder.

I didn't have a char killed in this event, but apparently you guys have zero information on what happened so I'd say I'm exactly as qualified as you to determined what happened. And I have to agree, the people who did this are quite clearly Hitler. There is no other explanation.
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Postby theguy » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:38 pm

catpurr wrote:I don't know any more than you. I'm just guessing that maybe it was one group that wanted to get rid of english-speaking characters.


What!!!!!!! Now that is not fair! There has to be some CRB involved or summit if its that. Any chance this incident could be looked into? I mean is there a line between people do what they want and people run around ruining the game on a massive scale getting rid of players because they can do what they want?
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Postby IHaveNoLegs » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:43 pm

theguy wrote:
catpurr wrote:I don't know any more than you. I'm just guessing that maybe it was one group that wanted to get rid of english-speaking characters.


What!!!!!!! Now that is not fair! There has to be some CRB involved or summit if its that. Any chance this incident could be looked into?

Historians have found that the original draft of the Nazi flag did not use a red background but instead used.....GREEN. COINCIDENCE?!?!?!?!

he said he was just guessing dude
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Postby theguy » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:44 pm

I know but if its RL racism then surely that's against the rules?
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Postby rconley » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:45 pm

theguy wrote:
catpurr wrote:I don't know any more than you. I'm just guessing that maybe it was one group that wanted to get rid of english-speaking characters.


What!!!!!!! Now that is not fair! There has to be some CRB involved or summit if its that. Any chance this incident could be looked into? I mean is there a line between people do what they want and people run around ruining the game on a massive scale getting rid of players because they can do what they want?


Oh come on. Even if it is a group that has determined to kill off one language group, it could be perfectly in character if that is how they created their character to be or circumstances made them that way. You cannot seriously cry CRB simply because they're killing off a certain language group. You have prejudice people in real life all the time. Some who think themselves supierior to others. IF this was their motivation, it doesn't make it a CRB and IF you suspect it...contact pd.
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Postby theguy » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:48 pm

rconley wrote:
theguy wrote:
catpurr wrote:I don't know any more than you. I'm just guessing that maybe it was one group that wanted to get rid of english-speaking characters.


What!!!!!!! Now that is not fair! There has to be some CRB involved or summit if its that. Any chance this incident could be looked into? I mean is there a line between people do what they want and people run around ruining the game on a massive scale getting rid of players because they can do what they want?


Oh come on. Even if it is a group that has determined to kill off one language group, it could be perfectly in character if that is how they created their character to be or circumstances made them that way. You cannot seriously cry CRB simply because they're killing off a certain language group. You have prejudice people in real life all the time. Some who think themselves supierior to others. IF this was their motivation, it doesn't make it a CRB and IF you suspect it...contact pd.


Catpurr already has, If they use occ communication to organise then its CRB, I just dont get how you see the line between RL and IC racism, what exactly is acceptable?
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Postby viktor » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:53 pm

well first i believe the current dragging mechanism is perfect, well as perfect as anything can be, seriously if you got 3 people dragging on person it does not take an hour, it is instant they toss them in a door in rl and in cantr so why not leave that realism

as for the event in discussion
i was not invoved in any way shape or form but
i agree it would have been good if they would have rp'd something at least spoke, i mean, once you got everyone locked up, what harm is there in saying something if not to those you murder at least speak to one of your comrades "your turn" or something just anything to keep the game 'alive' lol
other than that, as for reasons, there are many possible reasons a town could get exterminated. maybe the leader of the invaders had a grudge against the town leader and decided to just wipe them out in spite which i would assume some level of rp so probably not that in this instance. also there is the possibility of a 'cleansing' either by language or strength/skill from a spy having checked things out beforehand, or possibly they just wanted to eradicate everything in their path to set up an empire, or they could just be a merciless bloodthirsty group of bandits who want to pwn everyone they find when they can lol

that being said i would like to repeat something i said a long time ago in response to saying we shouldnt have power players

we need players of all types and backgrounds to give cantr it's social completeness , we need everyone yes this also includes powerplayers, hell think of genghis kahn, adolf hitler the real ones, if earth were cantr they obviously were controlled by powerplayers, anyways.... we need hack n slashers, we need explorers, sadists, cartographers, hermits, happy chatters, @$$holes, mathematicians, the list goes on and on we need players of all types seriously, trying to single out a group saying the game would be better off without is wrong, the game would have bigger gaps in its completeness if we left a group out.

anyways, that was my 3 cents lol
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Postby rconley » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:54 pm

theguy wrote:
catpurr wrote:I don't know any more than you. I'm just guessing that maybe it was one group that wanted to get rid of english-speaking characters.


What!!!!!!! Now that is not fair! There has to be some CRB involved or summit if its that. Any chance this incident could be looked into?


Your statement being unfair was to catpurr's statement about people killing off a language group. You said it wasn't fair and there had to be some CRB involved....not that the CRB would be the ooc coordination. Yes that would be a CRB...I'm saying that killing off a language group simply for speaking a different language isn't necessarily a CRB. You cannot prove that a person is playing a character to kill off language groups with their real life racism. People can spawn characters choosing to play them that way. It is a choice when you spawn a character to be able to rp them any way you choose. Just because they are a racist character doesn't make it a CRB
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Postby catpurr » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:02 pm

IC racism/facism should not be forbidden. (just supposing it was, to be honest we still don't know a thing! Maybe it was some vendetta of that town? My char like theguys was just passing through.)

I do however think there was CRB involved nevertheless, but out of another reason. Since the characters did not talk or whisper anything, yet were perfectly organized. Well maybe they did it legal, like planning, leaders starts to drag everybody else of the attackparty starts the same, or they made a preplanned list. [is the list of chars in the game for everyone the same order?]. Yet it was so perfectly organised and reacted to, I do suppose they communicated outside of the game, or was even one human infront of a screen. But I don't got any concrete proof. And yes I did drop someone of the PD a PM.

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