Thought or Rant of the day!!!

[Marian]

All I am going to say is that some people have a really deep set hatred for religion. for some reason, they REFUSE to believe or even let me build a temple or shrine. As if their characters have a reaon to deny my guy's construction of a building to his god, but nobody does. They just all say no, give no reason, just no.

To sum it up, people should really seperate their personal views on religion from those of their characters. If your character doesnt have a religion, at least be accepting of those who do. Open hostility to a religions person for no reason at all is bad rp, IMO.

I love 'realistic' religions where you can actually see how they started and how they relate to life in game...the religion in Aki, for instance.

But things like "The great god Giddimiddimuck, and the four elemental spirits who live at the corner of the world fought a great battle with Snorkamoo the Lord of Darkness, and after the Age of Chaos the world was formed etc. etc. have always seemed pretty lame to me. and my chars usually just dismiss the person dropping the notes as crazy.

Even worse then that are the obvious ripoffs of real world religions. The ones I see the most are religions that copy Christianity, and I don't don't know, maybe Wiccanism? I've seen too many sappy notes about peace and love and blah blah blah to count, and even a couple referring to the 'Father' or the 'Earth Mother' or whatever, even though the words themselves don't even make sense for Cantr.

[Zanthos]

Well, all I am saying is that there seems to be a deep hatred for religion where my guy is from. After being seriously wounded, he was spoken to by a deity telling him of the miraculious healing properties of mushrooms (the only natural healing food in the area.) So my character began preaching of the 'Mushroom Lord' gave him a name, and went to work gathering wood to build a modest temple in this god's name. He even went so far to amass evidence proving this god's existance (Coicendence has it that for some reason, there was a year when whenever someone insulted this god, a wild boar attacked them... five times in all and three of which on the one person who hated this god the most.)

[Sarah]

Why should characters be so willing to change their views all of the sudden? If they've always been in a society with no religion (which is likely the case in the majority of the areas in the game), it's not likely that everyone's going to just jump on the bandwagon as soon as some guy makes something up.

[Zanthos]

I have nothing against people with no religion. I am against open hostility towards a religion just because it is a religion. I completly agree with the fact that if someone has been in a society for all their life without religion, a sudden jump on a band wagon would be weird. But for a newspawn, with no societal influences, to outright despise a religious preacher for no reason is bad rp. I mean, if you really don't want to listen to the preacher at least make up a good reason.

[Marian]

Well, all I am saying is that there seems to be a deep hatred for religion where my guy is from. After being seriously wounded, he was spoken to by a deity telling him of the miraculious healing properties of mushrooms (the only natural healing food in the area.) So my character began preaching of the 'Mushroom Lord' gave him a name, and went to work gathering wood to build a modest temple in this god's name. He even went so far to amass evidence proving this god's existance (Coicendence has it that for some reason, there was a year when whenever someone insulted this god, a wild boar attacked them... five times in all and three of which on the one person who hated this god the most.)

Now that's actually pretty cool.

But as for why people are so against it...it's hard to say without knowing the details, but could it be possible you might be laying it on a little thick with all the preaching? Maybe people would be more accepting of a prophet who was a normal part of a community except that he went around gathering mushrooms for injured people in the name of the Mushroom Lord? And then when you were a more accepted part of the community you could gradually get a little weirder and no one would mind.

Or everyone around you might just be a jerk, who knows? But having tried to start a couple of religions myself I notice the method I mentioned seems to have a little more success...and of course someone with decent clothes and equipment is usually taken a little more serious than a a really fired-up guy with a bone shield, but again I don't know the situation your char is in.

[Zanthos]

Well, its more of an issue when I enter a town, tell them I follow a god, and they call me a looney. I started out nice and being part of the community, but one can only do that so long until insult sours your taste for the people around you.

and the boars attacking seemingly on command didn't help any of the like me either...

[Marian]

Just park yourself in a forest full of mushrooms and refuse to leave. Maybe suck up by doing projects for the leader...I know I wouldn't care how much crazy crap somebody was spouting just as long as they were active and helping me get things done. Eventually either A) they'll get used to you, or B.) everyone older than you will fall asleep and die and you'll be in charge by default and can make worshipping the Mushroom Lord mandatory under pain of death.

Just be careful to avoid C.) Annoying everyone so much that they kick you out of town and/or kill you.

[west]

Well, all I am saying is that there seems to be a deep hatred for religion where my guy is from. After being seriously wounded, he was spoken to by a deity telling him of the miraculious healing properties of mushrooms (the only natural healing food in the area.) So my character began preaching of the 'Mushroom Lord' gave him a name, and went to work gathering wood to build a modest temple in this god's name. He even went so far to amass evidence proving this god's existance (Coicendence has it that for some reason, there was a year when whenever someone insulted this god, a wild boar attacked them... five times in all and three of which on the one person who hated this god the most.)

See, that's a decent religion. But the characters who start the "Church of the Holy Father," complete with the Templar monks, that's just lame to me. (Disclaimer: My character loves and respects Lopan and several other Church members, but has seen not one whit of evidence in his rather long life that such a divine Providential force exists, and therefore is not inclined to believe.)

Now, if the boars attacked whenever someone criticized a god, even if it was coincidence, my characters would be fairly likely to at least give it a thought. Creating a religion and then promulgating it with absolutely no evidence or inference that such a god exists, on the other hand, seems pointless to me.

Example: the Mac Gregors don't harm wolves or lions, because a wolf and a lion once killed an enemy of the Clan who'd murdered a Clan member. Granted, the lions near the Castle still attack all the time, but the Mac Gregors just laugh it off, even if they're badly mauled. That's the sort of naturalistic, almost shamanist reaction to real-life events that, like your Mushroom Lord, could reasonably come from Cantrian society.

Cutting and pasting real-world religions without the corresponding revelatory experiences or any real applicability to cantr society does not impress me.

[wichita]

It does sound like a great religion. It would be cool to see it in game. Now you have a nice motivation to preach the faith even louder now that your character has recieved so much persecution for his beliefs! That is a nice feature of real world religions that often gets overlooked in game.

Don't instantly consture it as poor RP against bringing religion to the game. Try to look at it as well RPd persecution.


And for the record, even I have knocked down religions in game just because they lacked creativity or class.

[the_antisocial_hermit]

*the ground shakes*

[15454]

Much like Marians B.

You become leader or high authority figure and kill everyone who doesn't follow. So, same thing lol =p

[wichita]

*the ground shakes*

ROFL

[the_antisocial_hermit]

*the ground shakes*

ROFL

[BarbaricAvatar]

Rant of the day:

Cantr seems to be becoming more and more like real life every time i play it. I play games to escape from reality, not to see it recreated just so it can piss me off some more.

[Bran-Muffin]

rant of the day


When sensitive staff members edit, then delete, then lock a thread because of something you posted that he/she didnt like.