Dead Bodies as containers?

[EchoMan]

Why Echo?

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I think that anyone trying to start new settlement has a shovel in inventory

A guess is that more than 80% of all locations in the Cantr world, is pre-iron era or have very limited access to iron. This suggestion would make it even harder for small groups to survive, while it hardly affect the already established ones.

[Piscator]

It appears that this suggestion would cause a lot of problems for very little effect. After all, what are the advantages of this suggestion anyway? It creates less litter when a person dies and gives us a new way of garbage disposal.

I think the grave object would be a good solution, but this would mean on the other hand that there would be a lot of graves visible in every town. I also wonder if "newspawn gravedigger" would only become another annoyance. And, no, requiring a shovel for either burying or digging the corpse up is a bad idea IMO as there would be regions which wouldn't be able to bury their dead at all. I know places where even a "stone shovel" would be impossible to get, let alone a regular one.

[AlchemicRaker]

It appears that this suggestion would cause a lot of problems for very little effect. After all, what are the advantages of this suggestion anyway? It creates less litter when a person dies and gives us a new way of garbage disposal.

I think the grave object would be a good solution, but this would mean on the other hand that there would be a lot of graves visible in every town. I also wonder if "newspawn gravedigger" would only become another annoyance. And, no, requiring a shovel for either burying or digging the corpse up is a bad idea IMO as there would be regions which wouldn't be able to bury their dead at all. I know places where even a "stone shovel" would be impossible to get, let alone a regular one.

I agree about the shovel requirement (there shouldn't be one). Graves should disentigrate too (slowly over time), so they'll disappear eventually. And graves should only appear for outdoors location.

- Natso

[Piscator]

Well, obviosly, as you only can bury corpses outside. The interesting question though, is how fast a grave should deteriorate. I'd say 10 years minimum. It might also be a nice touch if you could repair a grave and attach signs to it.

[SekoETC]

It would be logical and a good thing as long as bodies could be dug up, which has already been discussed. Things can deteriorate at an accelerated rate underground. Digging up a grave with a shovel would take less time than with bare hands. Also in some other topic it was discussed that people could choose how deep they dig the grave, so people who just want to get it over with could dig shallow graves and risk having them dug up by grave robbers, while decent people would dig a deeper grave. If digging by hand was exponentially slower the deeper you dug, that would encourage people to use shovels in advanced societies.

[reve]

I know places where even a "stone shovel" would be impossible to get, let alone a regular one.

Didn't know that. This makes the idea is no longer acceptable. No shovel, then.

[EchoMan]

I know places where even a "stone shovel" would be impossible to get, let alone a regular one.

What is a stone shovel?

[AlchemicRaker]

I know places where even a "stone shovel" would be impossible to get, let alone a regular one.

What is a stone shovel?

Something imaginary proposed earlier in this topic.

- Natso

[EchoMan]

Ah, sorry. Wasn't paying attention.

[returner]

Wait, wasn't that rejected because we don't want people to be able to bury someone with all his notes and keys still attached? Would be pretty annoying if some newspawn buried the deceased town leader and suddenly the keys to the whole town were gone.

Exactly, I suggested it and all replies were against. Here, it's about to be moved to accepted after 2 posts.

[SekoETC]

Exactly, that's why it must be possible to also dig up the body. No instant deletion of objects, just sped up deterioration. Problem solved.

[Doug R.]

I think a grave object, that could be maintained and customized with signage would be nice. I support quicker deterioration of bodies in a grave. However, I'm leaning against being able to bury objects, and especially notes, on bodies. Clothes is fine, and I would like to be able to clothe dead bodies.

[Cdls]

and I would like to be able to clothe dead bodies.

+1

I think it is kinda screwed when some newspawn appears and strips bodies for no reason other than to get killed. This would certainly mitigate that destructive element, and give people the opportunity to have proper burials.

[SekoETC]

If it was possible to bury items on corpses (other than clothes) then it should be possible to bury items also without corpses. And this was discussed in another topic. I think it would contribute to the game since it would allow hiding things but also finding them if you get lucky.

[Tincho]

How about a bone shovel?