Making Milk from Rice + Water.

[Piscator]

I'm still opposed to this, as rice milk just doesn't offer the same range of applications as regular milk (mainly the cheese, yes). This may look overly pedantic, but I don't like to introduce implausabilities for no compelling reason at all.

I already made a note about the availability of milk in the RD forums and we will check if milk is indeed too rare or if the perceived shortage is only based on being in the wrong region. I hope we will come to a conclusion soon.

Another reason that speaks against this solution is that rice is about as rare as gold (literally). Milk from rice would thus only be available to a relatively small percentage of characters, while milk bearing animals should be pretty common.

[KVZ]

In PZ rice is quite popular. I think this suggestion in orginal form is OK, but I think that milk from rice is not real milk anyway. I never tried or heard about such thing in RL, but who cares. Lets make it

[BZR]

So, the suggestion is to make milk from rice + water, with a bucket, just like in real life

I have never heard about such milk.

Anyway, I don't like the idea. We should rework animals system instead of providing an artifical milk, just out of the blue

[Pilot]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_milk

Rice milk is a kind of grain milk processed from rice. It is mostly made from brown rice and commonly unsweetened. The sweetness in most rice milk varieties is generated by a natural enzymatic process, cleaving the carbohydrates into sugars, especially glucose, similar to the Japanese Amazake. Some rice milk kinds may nevertheless be sweetened with sugarcane syrup or other sugars.

Compared to cow's milk, rice milk contains more carbohydrates, but does not contain significant amounts of calcium or protein, and no cholesterol or lactose. Commercial brands of rice milk, however, are often fortified with vitamins and minerals, including calcium, vitamin B12, vitamin B3, and iron.

Rice milk is often consumed by people who are lactose intolerant or allergic to soy.

Commercial brands of rice milk are available in vanilla, chocolate, and almond flavors, as well as the original unflavored form and can be used in many recipes as an alternative to traditional cow milk. Commercial brands include Rice Dream and The Bridge and Ryza - a "Whole Grain" rice milk.

Rice milk is made by pressing the rice through a mill stream using osmosis to strain out the pressed grains. It is sometimes also made at home using rice flour and brown rice protein. Recipes are available on the internet.

Other
* Almond milk
* Grain milk
* Horchata, a similar, sweetened rice-based beverage
* Kokkoh, a rice milk
* Peanut milk
* Plant milk
* Soy milk

Perhaps you might also check this prepared non-dairy cheeses recipes, used to replace: Cream Cheese, Mascarpone, Ricotta, Brie, Camembert, Chevre, "Melted" Cheeses, Roquefort, among others
http://dairyfreecooking.about.com/od/ba ... utions.htm

[BZR]

I can't find any argument sensible enough to reply you, so I will just write that I don't like it. Anyway, I am one of these players who eat all those strange foods which can be found in game only if someone else cooks them, so I honestly don't care. Also, I would really like to see a good animal system, where you don't need to kill a cow to have milk instead of "rice milk".

[Pilot]

One of things I've learned over time is that people play Cantr for different reasons and diversity is what makes the green world rich in experience for all of us.

If someone wants to cook but some ingredients are hard to find, why don't create alternatives?

As civilization evolves, it's natural for players/characters to seek for different forms to prepare food.

You don't want this to be used as milk? I agree with you, but players might as well suggest recipes with non-dairy milk since right now there are places where animals are hard to find. New recipes are easier to implement than the animal domestication suggestion which has been there for years and perhaps will never get implemented.

[Cdls]

I dumped some minute rice into a bowl and added water...it didn't look anything like milk....and there is no way in hell I was gonna drink it!

:twisted: :twisted:


I didn't realize milk was so valuable to some, my chars normally just toss it aside as if it were nothing....

[Cogliostro]

I haven't the slightest clue what's holding us back from just adding the rice milk already.

[GPark]

I haven't the slightest clue what's holding us back from just adding the rice milk already.

On this point I have to agree. Rice milk is a completely realistic resource and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be implemented in-game. In RL we have soy milk, almond milk, rice milk, and a host of other unfortunate, over-priced grocery items (I know these things because my wife loves replacing my regular, delicious cow's milk with soy bean juice *shudders*). As long as the process for making it is rational, rice milk seems a natural addition.

[Tincho]

I'm not clear what the recipe we are discussing.

1) Rice + Water = Milk

or

2) Rice + Water = Rice Milk

[GPark]

I'm not clear what the recipe we are discussing.

1) Rice + Water = Milk

or

2) Rice + Water = Rice Milk

I would think the second. Rice + water produces rice milk, not the dairy milk currently present in the game. Unless we just want to use a universal milk-type product called "Milk" in-game.

[Cogliostro]

We were discussing option #1, yeah - for the simple reason that it avoids having RD tediously remake a whole lot of cooking projects that require milk, to now also accept rice milk too. So instead of it being a separate new resource, just bunch the two together, treating them as functionally the same.

[Tincho]

No need to redo all the recipes. You can make the new milk (rice milk) is used in new recipes.