Unending wonders of treasure hunting!!!

[sammigurl61190]

I agree--I think you meant steal the loot then sink the ship.

[Meh]

Loot then <i>scuttle</i> the ship. You can't sink a ship unless it's a bath toy and then technically that's a boat. A ship has to be scuttled first then it will sink on it's own if you have done a proper scuttling. Bunch of land lubbers.

[sammigurl61190]

I don't even know what the hell scuttling is. LOL

[Meh]

Exactly. Ya lubber.

A scuttle, the noun, a hole in a ship, like a porthole to look out of.
Scuttle, the verb, to make holes in a boat. When used it is assumed to mean unsealed ones in the sides and/or the bottom.

[sammigurl61190]

Oooohhhhh.....LOL

[The Hunter]

Loot then <i>scuttle</i> the ship. You can't sink a ship unless it's a bath toy and then technically that's a boat. A ship has to be scuttled first then it will sink on it's own if you have done a proper scuttling. Bunch of land lubbers.

Hey, take that back will you?

BTW: scuttling is sinking.
t"o intentionally sink a ship, especially your own, in order to prevent it from being taken by an enemy"

[sammigurl61190]

No offense, but I would take Orion's word more than yours on this subject...he is a sailor after all.

[The Hunter]

No offense, but I would take Orion's word more than yours on this subject...he is a sailor after all.

Ehmmm... Yeah, I'm not an expert on scuttling you know.

Like, I hate water, i really hate it... ppl are surprised when I tell them that, but then I explain to them that my job is keeping the ship IN the water instead of the ship under water and me in it. Historically many sailors didn't know how to swim, sounds illogic but the whole idea is not needing to swim, and being able to swim was considered bad luck.

Anyway, the british fleet "sunk" the bismarck and didn't scuttle it, the germans did scuttle the graf Spee. When I attack another ship I certainly don't scuttle it. More like blowing them out of the water, hehe. Ah, piracy in Cantr, nice.

[rklenseth]

Scuttling is being on the ship and doing something to it to intentionally make it so that it sinks or blow it beyond use.

The Merrimack was scuttled but never sank. The ironclad was fighting the Moniter when it grounded on a reef and got to stuck to avoid capture the captain blew up or scuttled the ship in order to avoid his ship falling into the enemies hands.

So scuttling is the act of being on the ship and pretty much putting it out of commision by either making it so that it will sink or blowing it up beyond use or to the point that it will sink.

A lot of times captains would do this to avoid having their ship fall into enemies hands which was a considered a dishonor to sea captains. Or the enemy would scuttle it because they didn't have a use for it after capturing (ie. pirates didn't need to tote around captured ships) so that no evidence would exist or the ship wouldn't fall back into enemy's hands.

[The Hunter]

Yep, like the example about the graf Spee that I gave. I assumed everyone know's about that ship and what happened with it. If not: The Graf Spee was a sistership of the bismarck. She was hunted by a britisch fleet and did batlle, took damage, and sailed to Montevideo for repairs. The british fleet then blocked the exit to the river and called in reinforcements for a final battle, heavily outgunned, the damaged Graf Spee had no chance against such a fleet and hoped to stay on the river, to get her repairedbut had to leave afterall becouse the Uruguaian government was afraid to get involved in the war. Not risking a useless bloodbath, the captain orderd to scuttle the ship and surrrendered.

RK. I thought the merrimac sunk, or was it the monitor? As warships they were supreme, but they weren't really seaworthy ships.

[rklenseth]

The Merrimack definitely was scuttled during the battle with the Monitor. Monitor might have sunk but after 1862, a whole load of ironclads were built by both sides so it could have been another ironclad. I know that the ironclads had a tendency to flip over in the water.

You could also be thinking of the Hunley, the first working submarine that was built during the Civil War by the Confederacy. It torpedoed a Union warship off the Carolina coast and in the process sunk itself because it wasn't balanced very well in the water.

[Camino]

Oh how I love the idea of commanding a small flotilla of ships as they launch forth ready to strike at the heart of every coastal community! Below decks I'd keep my loot and the slaves to row the boat as I see that as an integral part of it all and a handy way to encourage my crew taking people alive.

Those will be the days Unless of course your going to be brutally treated every single day till your traded at the slave markets in Lad (I forsee Lad as being the best place to trade in all sorts of looted booty, only place which is thinking about how to crush everyone who hasn't got power and anybody who does that could be a threat)

[rklenseth]

I would like to see bigger ships added like Galleons or Frigates that have mulpiple decks and rooms. Yeah, they would cost alot of wood and some iron and steel. Probably you would have to make rope and sails for them and would take a long time for them to be built but they would be awesome. And it would add another level and more depth to sailing.

I wonder if there is any chance of this. We'll have to see.

[The Hunter]

It will come cuz it must come. It'd be a great addition to the game. The pirate thread i mentioned before shows that everybody is in favour of piracy. Right now the seas are nearly deserted, even travelling is more adventurous than sea travel.

@ RK:
"December 31, 1862 -- While under tow to Beaufort, North Carolina, the Monitor sinks in a severe storm off Cape Hatteras."
(damn Capes )

The merrimac was indeed scuttled after lightening the ship to pass the bar. Somehow they could still not pass it and they scuttled the ship as the low draught unmerged the unarmoured weak parts of the ship making her vulnarable.

[rklenseth]

That is what I thought.

Anyways, the seas aren't all that deserted as you think and there continue to be more ships sailing the sea everyday. I think sea travel will continue to grow. I have a characters that are planning that. One for business and exploration and another for military purposes. The Krif/Drojf/Seatown Region has also seen that ships are really good for travel and each area has begun massive projects to build harbours since they have seen the success of Seatown Forest's longboat. So, I suspect to see a lot of sea travel between the those locations.

But piracy and more things to do at sea as well as bigger ships would be great though I suppose it would take a lot of programming to get it done.

But we can always hope. Jos surprised us with animals and now clothes so he might surprise us again though I think other big changes will come before this one.