Old Powers/New Powers

[Oasis]

Safer, I'm sure you mean lol.

I think there's a hazard here in discussing these issues too indepth. This is a very current issue, and the feelings, political climate, and activities of the various parties of interest here, shouldn't be well known to those who wouldn't otherwise know.

In other words, I think we're treading on the four day rule, and other aspects of the cr, by discussing this too much, and the more that is done, the less it is able to be kept out of the players mind while they play their character.

[Pirog]

That is why I keep a lot of my characters personal thoughts and eventual plans to myself
I think the things discussed now is common knowledge to anyone interested in the discussion.

I wonder why the noble Rangers and those honourable key figures keep protecting those ruthless brutal murderers from KHN? Fact is that the Ranger leaders and those key figures know Gregor personnally, and somehow must like him, or they wouldn't remain friends.

Sure they do. And that is a huge problem. I think a lot of people reacted strongly to the Rangers being so partial during the conflict.

Somehow I think the region needs the Mac Gregors, as it keeps Krif under control, i.e. Krif's attention is nowadays more focused on the Mac Gregors than on invading the rest (like StF) as was the case in the past.

I think a lot of the governments feels the opposite.

[The Industriallist]

I'm not so sure...I know too many lesser-known facts just now. So I'll move away from the history.

But things like literature and poetry are. The number of works per capita is much higher in KHN than Krif.

I disagree, at first glance. I haven't read the literature and poetry...but I would suspect it of being the Mac Gregors following in their leader's footsteps of ripping off good lines from IRL.
Though I'm picky...I also think Paris' "Soul Searching" is poorly done because it involves so many aspects absent in cantr...drowning being the easiest one.

Also of course, you can boost per-capita anything of value by ejecting all the stupider newspawns...in the Krif Hills, I don't think many poorly played characters last long.

[|william|]

But things like literature and poetry are. The number of works per capita is much higher in KHN than Krif.

you sure about that? Have you ever seen the Krif Library? And all the number of literature works done by Krifians over all the years? very impressive.

[griogal]

I'm not so sure...I know too many lesser-known facts just now. So I'll move away from the history.

But things like literature and poetry are. The number of works per capita is much higher in KHN than Krif.

I disagree, at first glance. I haven't read the literature and poetry...but I would suspect it of being the Mac Gregors following in their leader's footsteps of ripping off good lines from IRL.
Though I'm picky...I also think Paris' "Soul Searching" is poorly done because it involves so many aspects absent in cantr...drowning being the easiest one.

Also of course, you can boost per-capita anything of value by ejecting all the stupider newspawns...in the Krif Hills, I don't think many poorly played characters last long.

IRL if you "play poorly", you don't last long either if you're not living in a democratic country, with a social security and insurance system. Take China...if you would talk to even the lowest ranking official in a way some people do in Cantr, I'm afraid your mother won't have to count you in for Thanksgiving. But you don't have to travel that far....walk over to the White House and have Bush's goldfish for breakfast, while at the same time insulting him, his wife and family. I bet your membershipcard of Al Cantrda will help either. But of course, Bush is a petty warlord himself.

[The Industriallist]

Actually, though you'd never get to his goldfish, all that would happen is you'd end up in jail for a little while. Maybe a few weeks. To get killed, or even locked up for very long, you'd have to find a way to break into the grounds in the first place.

It's true that acting the way people do would likely get them in touble, at least, in quite a lot of countries. But not the countries these players are from...some people don't realize that not everything is liberal democracy, and pass that on to their characters.

And of course in China or elsewhere you have plenty of time to get intimidated in your formative years, so you don't suddenly pop up with a super-inflated sense of self-importance and no idea that insulting heavily armed men in their thirties is a bad idea.

Not that you should stop or anything...just punching holes in your counterargument.

[ephiroll]

Somehow I think the region needs the Mac Gregors, as it keeps Krif under control, i.e. Krif's attention is nowadays more focused on the Mac Gregors than on invading the rest (like StF) as was the case in the past.

This is pretty laughable. Maybe under past leadership Krif had aspirations to dominate the region, but do you actually know the Krif councilors? I mean, c'mon.

Yes, indeed, very laughable, seems people are forgetting who attacked who after 513 and that other then Simmons poor attempt at planning an invasion (which would have been stopped by Maynard anyway if he'd tried to carry it out) Krif hasn't been involved in any hostilites since the late 300's. It's just an attempt to justify the MacGregors actions by dragging up the past.