water skin

Liljum · Postby **Liljum** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:27 pm

SekoETC wrote:Real wells can produce several kilos of wood a day.

Do you mean water wheels as water powered lumbermills? Because that sentence didn't make any sense to me.

Postby **wichita** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:37 pm

T-shirt wrote:I think this water skin is unbalancing and should be changed. Or water should be available at every location or most locations for everyone to gather as a resource, or it should only be available after you have dug a well or build a water pump.

I think it is fine at the moment and will be left as is. 25 grams per day compared to 400 grams per day is a noticeable difference. At 25 grams per day, the primary use of water is going to get a little bit expensive.

The well pumps at 400 grams per day, which is a noticeable improvement.

What are the odds that you will get 16 characters with water skins working together to match the capacity of one character with a well? You must be playing a different Cantr than I am if you think that is going to happen.

I have moved this to General Discussion from General Support.

DylPickle · Postby **DylPickle** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:48 pm

I had no idea you could do any of this...
Does this mean that thirst is going to be implemented soon?

Arlequin · Postby **Arlequin** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:55 pm

Not before beer, I hope.

T-shirt · Postby **T-shirt** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:59 pm

wichita wrote:I think it is fine at the moment and will be left as is.

That's too bad. Because I still have a problem with water being available at every location (even deserts) while it is not visible on the locations screen. And collecting the resoure will not use any gathering slot.

I do agree that gathering water normally (with a water skin) will yield far less water as collecting it with a machine like a well or a water pump.

But why should wells and pumps have to be build if water is available everywhere above ground? And why can water be collected with a water skin (a device normally used to store water, not collect water) and not with a bucket (a device normally used to transport liquid materials)?

A water skin could very well be a container that holds 50/100/500 grams of water. Or a water skin could double as a bucket when collecting water from a well. And springs could be added to all locations and water could be collected without digging a well with the use of a water skin or bucket.

UloDeTero · Postby **UloDeTero** » Thu May 29, 2008 5:40 pm

How exactly does a character collect water anyway, using a water skin? (I mean, which buttons do you click, etc?)

Tiamo · Postby **Tiamo** » Thu May 29, 2008 6:06 pm

Check the wiki on the water skin...

I think you just use the item, then select the correct project.

Postby **Pilot** » Thu May 29, 2008 7:54 pm

I believe you have to put it on the ground first, then you select the project, pick the water skin up and then work on the project.

Zanthos · Postby **Zanthos** » Thu May 29, 2008 9:59 pm

why use a well or pump insted of a skin?

thats like why use a crossbow instead of a bone spear.

psymann · Postby **psymann** » Sat May 31, 2008 12:14 pm

alf wrote:I believe you have to put it on the ground first, then you select the project, pick the water skin up and then work on the project.

Yep, you do - add that to my list of dreadful user-interface features ;-)

Took me a good while to work that one out.

psymann

SekoETC · Postby **SekoETC** » Sat May 31, 2008 4:31 pm

Liljum wrote:
SekoETC wrote:Real wells can produce several kilos of wood a day.

Do you mean water wheels as water powered lumbermills? Because that sentence didn't make any sense to me.

lol I have no idea what I was thinking there. Maybe it was the watermill/well both ending in double L and wood and water starting on the same letter. Actually I meant that you can lift several kilos (liters) of wo-- water! (see, I almost did it again) from a well in real life. So being limited to grams is just as ridiculous as several other things in Cantr.

Cookie · Postby **Cookie** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:49 pm

Frits wrote:I know, it's a recent change and these should be updated.

Speaking of updating, i've noticed a lot of boats in the game which don't have information on the wiki since i restarted playing. Does anyone have info on these?

SekoETC · Postby **SekoETC** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:15 pm

What, new boats? I don't think new boats have been added since ever. Could you mention some names?

Cookie · Postby **Cookie** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:32 pm

Ah, on second look it apears they are sails and masts. Sorry to confuse you. Still don't know what they do though.

SekoETC · Postby **SekoETC** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:13 pm

There is this value in the wiki called increasesailing, it's a multiplier added to the base speed, so basically if you add a mast that increases it by 0.02 which is not notable but if you add sails then your ship gets notably faster. And the masts are a base requirement for the sails.

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