Government....

[Lone Wolf]

I was just wondering what kind of government people feel works the best to keep order in their town.

[new.vogue.nightmare]

For order, it would have to be an autocratic regime. A COMPETENT autocratic regime. Otherwise everything will be either: criminals get off and the leadership is too busy being anal to do anything, or criminals and the innocent get executed because the town is led by a bloodthirsty moron.

[creepyguyinblack]

I think that authortitative dictatorships are the most effective, when the leader can control all their subjects. There are far too many councils and other forms of "democracy" that allow people to gather and do things for their own benefit when they could all work towards the governments goals and produce better things faster and more easily.

[|william|]

I think that authortitative dictatorships are the most effective, when the leader can control all their subjects. There are far too many councils and other forms of "democracy" that allow people to gather and do things for their own benefit when they could all work towards the governments goals and produce better things faster and more easily.

My thoughts too.

[Camino]

N government works, just get a few people together and they can do better than any lousy council or one person.

[new.vogue.nightmare]

Sure they CAN do better, but WILL they? It's true that a social compact works, but only when everyone agrees to abide by it. Without some kind of central power, a single rogue individual can take advantage of the trust on which such a system is based, and plunge it into chaos.

[The Lurker]

Of course the same thing can happen in many governments, n.v.c.

I also voted for the fourth option, but I don't think social compacts work either. No kind of organization works in the long term. Eventually, everything just fades away, until there is nothing left but notes.

[Missy]

Based on my own opinion, i choose 2.

Blojt and Lad have the longest running governments so far. Very few people in Blojt seem to complain except for newspawns. Although average citizens can not obtain certain things due to the govt in place, which can sometimes make people a little unhappy it is what works. They learn eventually to deal with what they are destined to, and work with the materials they have around them to make ~their lives. ~ I'm not selling it, it does have merit.
Seems to me that people are overall happy in Blojt. (I can't speak for lad other than the fact they've had a really long running govt.) So a systsem like Blojts, compared to that of Quillanoi where people always complain? Now you know whats better.

And as far as throwing a few people together, it can work socially, but materialistically, its not as effective as a whole society. Besides, when you let yourself be just a group, youre subject to be forced into a govt or eventually become one anyways. 1 boat vs the 6 you could have in a monarchy.

I live in what is commonly referred to as a democracy and I KNOW they do not work. I whole heartedly apologise, but i totally feel quillanoi wastes its time trying to be one. LOL They're going to be like they are for a very long time. Businesses in Quillanoi have the potential to become a 1/4 as successful as the entire government of blojt, while the govt in Quillanoi will be left in each businesses dust. Thats pretty sad. (Well at least thats how I forsee it) And the worst part is, it's the govt that keeps it that way..

And tircqi...is the most un-productive place I ever did see. I can't quite get why noone there is on the same page. But that seems to be the problem with most councils. WHILE....at the same time it worked long enough to bring siom where it is today.

*Shrugs* But all good things must come to an end. All great empires fall one day etc...So I suppose that the answer to this question is that, "No govt works"
Yet I chose 2. I can't quite imagine the downfall of either lad or blojt. Even though I know they aren't invincible.

[ephiroll]

I had to go with the monarchy, it's just alot easier for one person to pull the strings then to confer with several people, all of which will have their own opinion.

[Chrissy]

Based on my own opinion, i choose 2.

Blojt and Lad have the longest running governments so far. Very few people in Blojt seem to complain except for newspawns. Although average citizens can not obtain certain things due to the govt in place, which can sometimes make people a little unhappy it is what works. They learn eventually to deal with what they are destined to, and work with the materials they have around them to make ~their lives. ~ I'm not selling it, it does have merit.
Seems to me that people are overall happy in Blojt. (I can't speak for lad other than the fact they've had a really long running govt.) So a systsem like Blojts, compared to that of Quillanoi where people always complain? Now you know whats better.

And as far as throwing a few people together, it can work socially, but materialistically, its not as effective as a whole society. Besides, when you let yourself be just a group, youre subject to be forced into a govt or eventually become one anyways. 1 boat vs the 6 you could have in a monarchy.

I live in what is commonly referred to as a democracy and I KNOW they do not work. I whole heartedly apologise, but i totally feel quillanoi wastes its time trying to be one. LOL They're going to be like they are for a very long time. Businesses in Quillanoi have the potential to become a 1/4 as successful as the entire government of blojt, while the govt in Quillanoi will be left in each businesses dust. Thats pretty sad. (Well at least thats how I forsee it) And the worst part is, it's the govt that keeps it that way..

And tircqi...is the most un-productive place I ever did see. I can't quite get why noone there is on the same page. But that seems to be the problem with most councils. WHILE....at the same time it worked long enough to bring siom where it is today.

*Shrugs* But all good things must come to an end. All great empires fall one day etc...So I suppose that the answer to this question is that, "No govt works"
Yet I chose 2. I can't quite imagine the downfall of either lad or blojt. Even though I know they aren't invincible.

New spawns don't complain about Blojt. It's usually people who are obsessed with bitching about it and continuosly bring their characters back there to do so. Also, a character in Blojt can have anything they desire. They can be whatever they want to be. It is strict, and there are firm laws, but if you show initiative, then the skys the limit on what you can do there.

I feel Quillanoi is brilliant. I haven't saw anywhere quite like it. The Democracy works well. It's not the government, but the lazy people. In Quillanoi a character has so much opportunity. Once again, it's all about taking the initiative as an individual to make your characters life worth while. Don't obsess over what the governments doing unless your thinking about running for office. If people would invest more time into themselves (characters) and quit worrying so much about what other people are doing then they will see positive results. A characters company will not go under if they focus on it and invest there time into it.

To compare the wealth between the two towns saying one is wealthier then the other, due to dictatorship versus democracy, is unfair because Blojt was built by 1 gamer and 30 of his chars Therefore, making Blojt very wealthy, very early on.

I have characters in a town that is dictated, I have some in democratic society, and some where a council is. They all are so different that it's really hard to compare but I have to say each works fine.

If there was an 'all of the above' answer that's what I would choose.

Chrissy

[thingnumber2]

Quillanoi is just crazy IMO, cuz they think it'll work, but it just doesn't...the best governement is probably a monarchy, with laws in place already, to prevent them from being evil, and with a guard, and guard leaders, who have some power, keeps the criminals in line...

[Chrissy]

I have 2 questions, what does IMO mean, and in what way do you feel that Quillanoi doesn't work?

Chrissy

[Chrissy]

I figured out the IMO.. in my opinion, right? So that just leaves the one question.

Chrissy

[Solfius]

Quillanoi does work.

It's just no one seems to realise the point of the Government in Quillanoi is to regulate, as opposed to gain "power" or wealth.

The constitutional aim of the gov is to protect its citizens and territories, and protect the free market and free society, which it is doing well I think judging by its reputation as a democracy.

Most governments try to do everything imaginable, like Siom where everything is government controlled. Quillanoi is almost the opposite of this, the government encourages private initative to provide things the city needs.

[new.vogue.nightmare]

...And then taxes everyone senseless From what I've heard, they're looking for people who haven't paid taxes because they deserted the city?