Baked trout , a way to live?

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Baked trout , a way to live?

Postby Bear » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:03 pm

After having followed the discussion in the Carving Knife thread and the wish for "balance" I just have to post this.

You'll have to spend 4 days fishing, 0,2 days baking and 0,026 days of wood collecting, in total 4,226 days, to get a meal of baked trout. Probably a bit more as you might have gotten tired, if not from the fishing, baking and wood collecting most certain from building the oven you're baking the fish in.

If you have built yourself a fishing spear you'll get your meal in 0, 796 days and with a pole in 0,626 days. You will survive!:-)
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Postby kinvoya » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:14 pm

Bear, I don't understand the 0,days thing. Are these full days or percentages of days or what? I think you're saying it takes an insanely long time to make some trout to eat?

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Postby SekoETC » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:17 pm

In other countries it's common to use a comma instead of a period to mark decimals. So those mean that it takes less than a day, because you are able to fish enough trout so that when you cook it then you get food for many days and the outcome is more than you eat.
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Postby Bear » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:31 pm

kinvoya wrote:Bear, I don't understand the 0,days thing. Are these full days or percentages of days or what? I think you're saying it takes an insanely long time to make some trout to eat?

:?


4,226 days (or 4.226 days) means 422.6 % of a day or 4 days and a bit less than 2 cantrhours to get a meal of baked trout!
If you choose to eat carrots instead you need only to spend 0.1 days, or 10 % of a day, or less than 1 cantrhour to get yourself a meal.


I'm getting confused myself now... :?
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Postby kinvoya » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:33 pm

So does it take more than four thousand days to get a trout meal without equipment or a little over four days?

Oh, I see. It takes longer with equipment than without. *smacks forehead with palm* = international gesture for "I'm a little slow with numbers."

:lol:

Edit: Bear already clarified (I think... *squints at numbers*)
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Postby Anthony Roberts » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:01 pm

Seems reasonable to me. The amount of nutrition from fish over carrots is much superiour, and for the fact that we WANT you to use a fishing spear or pole. Fishing with your hands is possible, but very difficult.

Go use those hands for some carrot harvesting.
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Postby The Industriallist » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:19 pm

Well, there is the issue that fish, according to those numbers, are horribly slow as a food source even with a fishing pole.

I assumed they were meant to only be reasonably useful as a dense traveling food...I don't actually know how much that meal weighs.
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Postby Bear » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:22 pm

So, five cantrhours to get a meal of baked fish is what it should take?That's what it takes with a pole.

It's peaceful though:-)
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Postby Solfius » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:31 pm

I think he's saying that it takes 4 days without tools to collect and cook enough fish for a single days food, and most of a day to do so with tools
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Postby Anthony Roberts » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:37 pm

Again. Fish is not really meant to be used as 'mealfood'. There are now several ways to prepare the fish, too, to make it superiour than just cooked, giving incentive to fish.

However, fish is mostly used for small meals, or specially prepared meals. Just like pizza, cookies, or sushi. Not many people make them, there's no point, but they have RP value, as do fish.
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Postby Bear » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:48 pm

Ok, I can live ...on, oops, sorry, I mean, with that!:-)
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Postby T-shirt » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:26 pm

Unprepared food should have to be consumed in much larger quantities to satisfy you appetite; something like 90% of the daily gathering amount (without tools), so that will be more efficient to eat after you cook, bake, grill or microwave your food.
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Postby formerly known as hf » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:27 pm

I've suggested that before - that there should be many more possibilities for cooking, and that it should make it much more efficient to eat...
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Postby Solfius » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:33 pm

T-shirt wrote:Unprepared food should have to be consumed in much larger quantities to satisfy you appetite; something like 90% of the daily gathering amount (without tools), so that will be more efficient to eat after you cook, bake, grill or microwave your food.


The arguement against that I believe is that cooking doesn't raise the nutritional value.

However, you post has made me think. It's possible that cooking food makes it easier to digest, so I think would defintaely work.

I like it :D

Now all we need is someone to split this and put the last 3 posts in the suggestions forum ;)
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Postby formerly known as hf » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:34 pm

Or give programming and resources a break? What with all the changes recently...
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