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Re: What if....

Postby Swingerzetta » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:41 pm

What if Cantr characters are all robots, built and stored offline ever since the downfall of civilization, and, before humanity was wiped out, it had been customary for people to digitally store their personalities in a database on their twentieth birthdays, 'just in case'.
What if now, for some reason, the database has been activated and is sending these personalities at random to the robots lying inactive throughout the world, and they're waking up thinking they're human, with 20 year old personalities, but no memories. Their perception of the world is filtered to make it appear normal, and they therefore have no realizations of how strange it is that they can work while they sleep, eat 'food' that never spoils, and print off endless sheets of paper without requiring any resources or drawing utensils, as if a printer is built into their torso.

What if, programmed to think they're human, and to ignore the technological oddities surrounding their existance, they don't even see the inactive bodies of the other robots until one turns on, at which point, as far as they can see, the robot spontaneously 'spawns' as a fully grown, naked human.
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Re: What if....

Postby Doug R. » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:16 am

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Re: What if....

Postby JsWill » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:18 am

Swingerzetta wrote:What if Cantr characters are all robots, built and stored offline ever since the downfall of civilization, and, before humanity was wiped out, it had been customary for people to digitally store their personalities in a database on their twentieth birthdays, 'just in case'.
What if now, for some reason, the database has been activated and is sending these personalities at random to the robots lying inactive throughout the world, and they're waking up thinking they're human, with 20 year old personalities, but no memories. Their perception of the world is filtered to make it appear normal, and they therefore have no realizations of how strange it is that they can work while they sleep, eat 'food' that never spoils, and print off endless sheets of paper without requiring any resources or drawing utensils, as if a printer is built into their torso.

What if, programmed to think they're human, and to ignore the technological oddities surrounding their existance, they don't even see the inactive bodies of the other robots until one turns on, at which point, as far as they can see, the robot spontaneously 'spawns' as a fully grown, naked human.
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Would you be willing to give me permission to use this as a roleplay for one of my characters sometime? :p Oh boy, would other Cantrians think he's out of his mind. xD
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Re: What if....

Postby Swingerzetta » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:54 am

JsWill wrote:
Swingerzetta wrote:...


Would you be willing to give me permission to use this as a roleplay for one of my characters sometime? :p Oh boy, would other Cantrians think he's out of his mind. xD


Haha, I don't know how well that would work, but if you think you can pull it off, go for it!
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Re: What if....

Postby ManyVoices » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:03 pm

I think that would break the rules. Characters aren't suppose to have a back story before spawning according to the wiki.
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Re: What if....

Postby Sunni Daez » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:10 pm

Swingerzetta wrote:
JsWill wrote:
Swingerzetta wrote:...


Would you be willing to give me permission to use this as a roleplay for one of my characters sometime? :p Oh boy, would other Cantrians think he's out of his mind. xD


Haha, I don't know how well that would work, but if you think you can pull it off, go for it!



Of course it can be pulled off.. they don't know they are robots.. they don't know anything really.. just that they spawned naked into Cantr.. the whole backstory is only something the player would know and not anything the charri would... sooo I really don't see the point in playing it, what is there to use?.. but.. I do think the idea is pretty awesome.
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Re: What if....

Postby catwill » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:16 pm

Your character should not have a background story describing the time before they spawned. They can have set personalities, and you can even have them act as if they have a back story, but this should not be made public to the other characters. If it is, your character will likely be treated as insane.
But they are allowed to think they do so depending how it was RPed it would not neccesarily break the rules.
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Re: What if....

Postby saztronic » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:09 am

Swingerzetta wrote:... and print off endless sheets of paper without requiring any resources or drawing utensils, as if a printer is built into their torso.



I always wonder why people think notes are written on paper... or "writtten" at all, in the literal sense. I mean, there is no paper in the game -- beyond the graphical interface, which is just a set of tools for manipulating the game content. And of course the picture used for writing notes, is that of a writing implement and surface...

But Cantr is in many ways a collective hallucination. And people have, based on nothing more than the word "notes" and that picture, assumed that notes are on paper, and written, even though in a way, no Cantr character could really even know what those concepts mean.

What if...

Notes were simply pure thought, stored in the ether. Perhaps we can see them in some fashion, like a kind of vague heat distortion in the air, and when they register on the eye, the "title" gives us some sense of their deeper content. But both the title, and the content, are simply stored alpha waves, which allow others to "taste" the thoughts of others who have gone before, and to make copies of those thoughts and carry them around, and even to alter the contents of those thoughts with their own. Thoughts, of course, can't be destroyed, and neither can "notes."

In a way it's not terribly unlike art... wherein the artist embodies a particular thought, or concept, in some medium; and then others come along and "experience" that art, allowing communication to occur between two people who are not in the same place or even in the same time.

Cantr characters simply have the innate ability to disembody their thoughts for consuption by others. No writing implements, no paper, no need to figure out how we produce endless supplies of paper and things to write on it with... but a little less literal than, and certainly a departure from, the current collective hallucination on the subject.
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Re: What if....

Postby JsWill » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:06 pm

I think it's very possible it could be played while staying within the rules. We don't even know if the characters are robots, I was suggesting making an insane character that believes it whether it's true or not and without any logical and observable evidence. I mean I could think of a few examples of this happening in real life in fact, I'll opt not to for the sake of not offending anyone, but it does happen.
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Re: What if....

Postby SekoETC » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:43 am

Many people have played robots in the past. Usually they don't live very long.
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Re: What if....

Postby JsWill » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:28 pm

Oh... Well I thought it was unique... :( I guess I should have known better, I guess there ain't much people haven't done...
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Re: What if....

Postby Doug R. » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:01 pm

What if we dispensed with the CR and characters were just entities connected to a single hive mind, up to 15 per mind.

It would certainly change the game dynamic, and imagine what could be accomplished with such massive cooperation.
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Re: What if....

Postby computaertist » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:15 pm

Doug R. wrote:What if we dispensed with the CR and characters were just entities connected to a single hive mind, up to 15 per mind.

It would certainly change the game dynamic, and imagine what could be accomplished with such massive cooperation.

I think I'd pay to play on a Cantr server with no CR. I'd certainly want to, only RL constraints beyond my control would stop me.
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Re: What if....

Postby SekoETC » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:09 pm

What if there still was a CR on some level, but people were allowed to plan events OOC:ly as long as they had a positive effect on the world?

What if towns could post an OOC flyer of what they have to offer to newspawns and people could choose were to spawn based on who offers the best perks and liberties? Like if there were towns that rewarded activity by letting the first person awake take the belongings of someone who dies there, even if they were just a newspawn. Instead of the usual "you're new so you're supposed to hand things over, otherwise you're a thief". Funny how the person who has been there the longest earns the right to everything people have earned in their lives, even if they hadn't done much. No one ever questions that. (Even I don't.)
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Re: What if....

Postby catwill » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:14 pm

One of mine recently questioned a similar scenario to disastrous results, okay maybe not disastrous but far from good.
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