Overhearing whispers, your opinion

[Cogliostro]

Thanks for explaining. Unfortunately, that still makes no sense to me.

How about this: if it's such a problem and private char-to-char is important for us, why not remove overhearing, remove "you see X whispering to Y" notifications, and allow a small chance that someone will detect someone else talking to another (effectively seeing the "X whispering to Y" message), but not the actual content of the message.

That would make it nice and neat in those whisper-towns, the privacy advocates will be happy to chat away. Town leaders who "need to know" when whispering is going on, can then rely on the overhearing chances of all their minions.

[SekoETC]

...That doesn't feel right either. Cantrians generally notice everything. If there was a high chance of whispers going unnoticed, then people might potentially plan a coup in the middle of a town without anyone even noticing they were in any contact with each other. It's better just to make it so that the regular you see X talking to Y messages won't make the character light up (just like eating) and maybe they could be grayed out. The best thing would be to make them stack but that might be difficult to implement.

Or okay, maybe some of the you see X talking to Y messages could be filtered out, but you'd think that the chance of noticing those would be greater in small towns, so it should be inverted somehow...

[Cogliostro]

It would help a lot if the whispers didn't light up characters.

[*Wiro]

It's better just to make it so that the regular you see X talking to Y messages won't make the character light up (just like eating) and maybe they could be grayed out.

With the option to turn that off...

[Piscator]

You might like to check out this suggestion:http://forum.cantr.org/viewtopic.php?t=17611

[SekoETC]

Yes, I was basing it on that suggestion.

How would people feel about You see X talking to Y messages having a random chance of going unnoticed that was proportional to the amount of listeners? = If there was just one listener, 100% would be heard and it would go down from there.

[Ryaga]

I think the overhearing thing should stay, but it should work both ways. There should be a 5% chance a message is overheard per location and 5% it's not even noticed, maybe even higher.

[Comy]

Yes, I was basing it on that suggestion.

How would people feel about You see X talking to Y messages having a random chance of going unnoticed that was proportional to the amount of listeners? = If there was just one listener, 100% would be heard and it would go down from there.

I guess I wouldn't mind that, but either your idea about whispering and projects or the idea about whispering not lighting people up sound much better to me.

[*Wiro]

I think the overhearing thing should stay, but it should work both ways. There should be a 5% chance a message is overheard per location and 5% it's not even noticed, maybe even higher.

Finally something that makes sense and should satisfy both sides.

[Piscator]

I think the overhearing thing should stay, but it should work both ways. There should be a 5% chance a message is overheard per location and 5% it's not even noticed, maybe even higher.

Finally something that makes sense and should satisfy both sides.

Sorry, but how is that even helping? Not only would it keep the utter randomness of the current implementation, it would make it even worse by denying you information based on the flip of a coin. I think you should be able to decide yourself which information is worth recieving.

[Ryaga]

I think the overhearing thing should stay, but it should work both ways. There should be a 5% chance a message is overheard per location and 5% it's not even noticed, maybe even higher.

Finally something that makes sense and should satisfy both sides.

Sorry, but how is that even helping? Not only would it keep the utter randomness of the current implementation, it would make it even worse by denying you information based on the flip of a coin. I think you should be able to decide yourself which information is worth recieving.

Then I should be able to decide other people's whispers are worth recieving? I'm pretty peeved that it might be removed.

[ornithopter]

What kind of odds to overhear are we talking about in the project system? 2% (1 out of 50 messages per eavesdropper) seems low in those circumstances. 5% (1/20) sounds good to me.

[ornithopter]

I think the overhearing thing should stay, but it should work both ways. There should be a 5% chance a message is overheard per location and 5% it's not even noticed, maybe even higher.

Except in combination with manually directed eavesdropping, I don't get how this is an improvement, and even then only with a low (but much higher than 5%) chance to notice the whispering instead of a low chance not to.

[Comy]

What kind of odds to overhear are we talking about in the project system? 2% (1 out of 50 messages per eavesdropper) seems low in those circumstances. 5% (1/20) sounds good to me.

With the project system, I think it would be fine to have quite a high chance of overhearing things. That way someone could join a project sneakily and for a brief period of time, but still have a chance of overhearing something interesting.

[Piscator]

I think the overhearing thing should stay, but it should work both ways. There should be a 5% chance a message is overheard per location and 5% it's not even noticed, maybe even higher.

Finally something that makes sense and should satisfy both sides.

Sorry, but how is that even helping? Not only would it keep the utter randomness of the current implementation, it would make it even worse by denying you information based on the flip of a coin. I think you should be able to decide yourself which information is worth recieving.

Then I should be able to decide other people's whispers are worth recieving? I'm pretty peeved that it might be removed.

I've no idea what you're trying to say. In case there has been a misunderstanding, I'm not talking about the content of a whisper, but about being informed when someone whispers.
I just don't think that simply deleting every second (third, fourth, whatever) whisper from your events list is the right way to handle the information flood.