Overhearing whispers, your opinion

[*Wiro]

You don't honestly think that with a 0,75% of overhearing, someone is going to overhear that *one* message, do you? And is your only complain about this that it isn't easy?

[psychoticbirdy21]

Then they are bad players. Integrity should be paramount, that's what the Cardinal Rule intends to encourage. (I hope)

I'm sure you are well aware that those do indeed exist in the Cantr world. Something like this could adversely alter the game for a lot of people.

Wiro, I stand by what I said. I honestly don't think this will have a huge impact on RP. I'm typically a supported of the things you bring up, but, in this case, I'm against this. I don't really see a good enough reason for its implementation and I know there are other who agree.

I definately agree that there really isn't a good reason for the overhearing crap to be implemented. it just makes things really annoying.

[amika-babilfrenzo]

Then they are bad players. Integrity should be paramount, that's what the Cardinal Rule intends to encourage. (I hope)

I'm sure you are well aware that those do indeed exist in the Cantr world. Something like this could adversely alter the game for a lot of people.

Wiro, I stand by what I said. I honestly don't think this will have a huge impact on RP. I'm typically a supported of the things you bring up, but, in this case, I'm against this. I don't really see a good enough reason for its implementation and I know there are other who agree.

I definately agree that there really isn't a good reason for the overhearing crap to be implemented. it just makes things really annoying.

Maybe your character could spell out sensitive words as individual messages, so that hearing one message isn't detrimental to you.

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No one part of that message can possibly reveal your whole plan (although this method would be time consuming).

[psychoticbirdy21]

I definately agree that there really isn't a good reason for the overhearing crap to be implemented. it just makes things really annoying.[/quote]

Maybe your character could spell out sensitive words as individual messages, so that hearing one message isn't detrimental to you.

Let's
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that guy

No one part of that message can possibly reveal your whole plan (although this method would be time consuming).[/quote]


That would be annoying on so many levels!! First off, every other char in that area would get useless lights ups..several useless light ups. And yes, it would be time conusming, esp for someone that has several chars active at once.

[*Wiro]

That would be annoying on so many levels!! First off, every other char in that area would get useless lights ups..several useless light ups. And yes, it would be time conusming, esp for someone that has several chars active at once.

If that annoys you, then why are you against the implementation of this suggestion? It would make the light-ups less useless. I don't get why you want your whispers to stay oh so secret, especially with the 0,75% of someone possibly hearing it.

[psychoticbirdy21]

That would be annoying on so many levels!! First off, every other char in that area would get useless lights ups..several useless light ups. And yes, it would be time conusming, esp for someone that has several chars active at once.

If that annoys you, then why are you against the implementation of this suggestion? It would make the light-ups less useless. I don't get why you want your whispers to stay oh so secret, especially with the 0,75% of someone possibly hearing it.

Because private conversations are private conversations. I know not all conversations are "private" but some are, and it'd be really annoying to have someone overhear something they weren't supposed to. It totally defeats the purpose of whispering.

[*Wiro]

That would be annoying on so many levels!! First off, every other char in that area would get useless lights ups..several useless light ups. And yes, it would be time conusming, esp for someone that has several chars active at once.

If that annoys you, then why are you against the implementation of this suggestion? It would make the light-ups less useless. I don't get why you want your whispers to stay oh so secret, especially with the 0,75% of someone possibly hearing it.

Because private conversations are private conversations. I know not all conversations are "private" but some are, and it'd be really annoying to have someone overhear something they weren't supposed to. It totally defeats the purpose of whispering.

It doesn't defeat the purpose of whispering at all. Whispering is still possible, there's just a 0,75% chance someone (who might not even care at all, or be a sleeper, so the chance of someone who would do something with it is even lower) would hear a message as well. And from personal experience it is usually only one or two messages of the whole discussion that have information no one should know, like names and the like.

[psychoticbirdy21]

That would be annoying on so many levels!! First off, every other char in that area would get useless lights ups..several useless light ups. And yes, it would be time conusming, esp for someone that has several chars active at once.

If that annoys you, then why are you against the implementation of this suggestion? It would make the light-ups less useless. I don't get why you want your whispers to stay oh so secret, especially with the 0,75% of someone possibly hearing it.

Because private conversations are private conversations. I know not all conversations are "private" but some are, and it'd be really annoying to have someone overhear something they weren't supposed to. It totally defeats the purpose of whispering.

It doesn't defeat the purpose of whispering at all. Whispering is still possible, there's just a 0,75% chance someone (who might not even care at all, or be a sleeper, so the chance of someone who would do something with it is even lower) would hear a message as well. And from personal experience it is usually only one or two messages of the whole discussion that have information no one should know, like names and the like.

Yeah, but why would anyone want to even risk it? I know from experience that it's not helpful if your char is plotting against another char and that other char just happens to overhear part of the plot...

[Yaddy1]

I personally think this is a great idea. Its a new feature that adds depth to the game.

[*Wiro]

Yeah, but why would anyone want to even risk it? I know from experience that it's not helpful if your char is plotting against another char and that other char just happens to overhear part of the plot...

Because otherwise your character would never mess up and things would always go according to plan unless you can be bothered to RP flaws your character might have?

[the_antisocial_hermit]

Guys... chill. Do I need to quote myself? >.<

[SekoETC]

Yeah, but why would anyone want to even risk it? I know from experience that it's not helpful if your char is plotting against another char and that other char just happens to overhear part of the plot...

Maybe people do other things in whispers than just plot? And I'm just dying to hear what my character's boyfriend is chatting with other women. Or if those newspawns are plotting something. Sure we could work on coding actual eavesdropping, but sounds like some people would still throw a hissy-fit concerning that because they seem to want whispers to be 100% private, or at least eavesdropping being 100% detectable.

[Debsy]

That would be annoying on so many levels!! First off, every other char in that area would get useless lights ups..several useless light ups. And yes, it would be time conusming, esp for someone that has several chars active at once.

If that annoys you, then why are you against the implementation of this suggestion? It would make the light-ups less useless. I don't get why you want your whispers to stay oh so secret, especially with the 0,75% of someone possibly hearing it.

Because they want to rp sex without getting caught.

[the_antisocial_hermit]

Sure we could work on coding actual eavesdropping, but sounds like some people would still throw a hissy-fit concerning that because they seem to want whispers to be 100% private, or at least eavesdropping being 100% detectable.

Eh, that's the point where I'd be like, "Hey, they have to put effort into eavesdropping, so you can deal with an eavesdropping feature. You have a chance of finding out if they were doing it just as they do of actually hearing something important."

The only thing I don't like about this version is that there's no effort on the part of the people that hear something, but there has to be so much more effort on the part of people wanting to keep things quiet. That's just not fair. It's a two-way street. I understand keeping things secret requires more effort than eavesdropping, but as it is, there's none at all on the part of the eavesdropper (who may or may not even care about eavesdropping; though yes, it's more like just accidentally hearing something or having the choice to accidentally overhear something- we all know how that is in Cantr though; everyone hears it and reacts to it or everyone ignores it).

And by the way, is it everyone in the town that overhears whatever line or just a random person? I just need clarification.

I'm still more in favor of having something more thoroughly looked over and coded in than just whatever is easiest and fastest to get a feature like this in.

[Comy]

Someone please reassure me that people don't think sex or plotting are the only two reasons someone would want to keep a conversation private.