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Postby new.vogue.nightmare » Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:10 am

"Bend a stick far enough and it may break. Or it may whip back and rip out your eye and fling it against a tree or something."
--Chris Sweeney

That's right, you just need to be patient. Eventually something's bound to happen, especially with all the turmoil...political unrest, paranoid workers, religious conflict....the streets of Quillanoi may soon flow with blood :D

So even if the Blojt thing doesn't turn out as I hope it might, at least I'll get to see some fun in Quill :twisted:
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Postby Jos Elkink » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:45 am

Don't make me nervous, Oni! :) ... I try to distance myself from my characters, but I really care about Jonathan ;) ...

And I fully agree with Richard - Quillanoi is a democracy in the sense that you can vote out the politicians you don't like, that you can petition to the Council and see what they can do, that you can try to get a referendum started, etc., but the place still needs to be run by someone - usually people disagree (that's why we have all these debates), so I think the government would be completely stuck if there really was rule by the people.

And honestly, I fully disagree with all those arguments that this government is so inefficient and deadlocked etc. - I simply don't see it. The Guards are growing, there are more and more companies, the number of transactions in Quii is increasing constantly, the constitution is gradually starting to really work, there are quite a few laws implemented (ok, I'm not a good law-writer, but still), diplomatic relations have been set up with Brunoi and Siom, ... so where is this inefficiency?

The only reason to see it as inefficient would be that the government is not importing resources, cleaning up the floor, fighting wars, ... but these are not signs of inefficiency, but just a different approach to what a government should be doing, which simply does not fit with the ideology of Russell or Quathak. Quillanoi government is not run like a company, exactly because the idea is that it shouldn't be ...
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Postby Solfius » Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:59 pm

hooray! Well said, I think that because Quillanoi doesn't strve to be like a company is what makes it so unique. As a certain character in Quill would say: "Jos has blessed it with uniqueness"
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Postby Gary Connor » Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:52 pm

i hate Qullioni too...they are always talking about Taxes etc. i does my head in! same with Karnon and its Forest! its all taxes,government! everyone is always typing something and when i come online there is always loads to read so i just dont bother!
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Postby Meh » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:05 pm

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Postby Darth Tiberius » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:39 pm

Quillinoi in my experience is a much slower moving town in terms of development. I've had a character in there since I joined some time ago and it has not developed much past a few more buildings and a fair amount of steel. It could have a lot more potential.
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Postby rklenseth » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:41 pm

It does have a lot of people and resources seem to exchange hands freely but that is only because most people in Quillanoi don't resolve arguments or disagreements by killing each other like a lot of other places do.
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Postby new.vogue.nightmare » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:57 pm

...although some (one) of them seem to just become reeeeally paranoid and flee town o.o;;;
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Postby Darth Tiberius » Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:10 pm

Killing definatelty makes tis game fun. My characters are mostly bloodthirsty but respected. Not mere common criminals. None of them are. In Quillinoi is the only place that they seem to do no killing. It's a bit boring there. That gives me a chance to work on.............peace. Only a few of my characters are pacifists. :twisted:
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Postby west » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:23 am

Red_Eye, if you participated in discussion maybe the Forest would be a better place...

man, people who just kind of chill and don't enter the discussion but take advantages of the benefits caused by that discussion kind of tick me off...
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Postby new.vogue.nightmare » Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:33 am

True, that.
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Postby JherodJ » Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:48 am

Just to change the subject and merge another one.How does Quillanoi feel anout its first politically socialist activist?;) You can tell the government is annoyed but the people seem to like her if somewhat frightened.
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Postby JherodJ » Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:51 am

and another quick question;) Does anyone know of any other openly homo or bi-sexual characters in game?
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Postby rklenseth » Sat Oct 25, 2003 3:07 am

The government is not annoyed. Its just that she is trying to steal private property from other people to give away freely to others. The government would have no quarrel with her if she either got the potatoes from another avenue, got permission from one of the owners of the harvester, or built her own harvester and use it for those means. Considering that one of the most powerful businessmen in Quillanoi claims partial ownership to the harvester (Mr. Grax), this Covington might have a hard time from him, especially since he has a voice in the government. I do see that the Cult is losing power. Many of its workers have resigned in protest to bad pay (Mc Niall and Everett who then turned and joined the QCFS, the Cult's political rivals) though I don't think the Cult will totally fall apart. I think the rising of the harvester debate has added some more political flavor into Quillanoi though the President and the Council does not want to get involved, Senator Everett seems the government should as to solve the problem of ownership. We will see if the Council votes to overrule the Senator's decision. Finally, one of the checks of the government is being used :D .

I do see that the QCFS is gaining more membership and support even with its controversal support of a building tax and mininium wage law forcing the Quii into the free market. I know that one business was driven away from Quillanoi, Zeap's Motors, by this law and the Cult is not using the Quii in protest though I think that is economic suicide on their part as most of the other business owners would not join the protest or were not at the meeting (Woodhouse, Hobbes, Dante, Handel, Russell, Quathak). Plus, with Malfu Dorsk making those deals with Jonathan Russell for the entry of the Quii into Brunoi would make it even more influential. I know that Mr. Grax was hoping to gain control of valuable resources in Brunoi and getting around the Quii by doing so but with this deal with Brunoi that might end his deal and with strict Siom controlling the resources in the other direction, he will either have to find unknown sources or stop his protect on the Quii. With most of the business owners in Quillanoi supporting the Quii and the taxes and now the most influential business in Brunoi, the Lusken Transports, supporting the Quii, Mr. Grax might find it hard to stay in business if he keeps up his protest. The only haven Mr. Grax might have is Quillanoi Forest where Ms. Masah left with her company or Lake Village which has a good business enviroment without any Quii.

Unlike most people, I find Quillanoi and that whole region from Siom to Tircqi, very interesting and fun.
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Postby JherodJ » Sat Oct 25, 2003 3:36 am

From what ive seen of the quii I think it is a scam(like I do all monetary systems) But Shandra likes the idea of the Quii:) She`ll reveal that later on when her needs are met.;)

I have to agree with you RK I find the whole region lively and entertaining:)
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