Planets and Aliens? - CR breech or not?

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Postby Bowser » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:18 am

julie2 wrote:Does Cantr have a sky and a sun ?


Yes, Cantr does have a sun, it is very clear to anyone that owns a peice of clothing called glittering embroided bracers.

The description of the bracers is:

a pair of well crafted bracers fit snugly to the wearers arms, shimmering in the sunlight with their many diamonds, clear glass beads, and other valuable metals
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Postby The Industriallist » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:50 am

Bowser wrote:
julie2 wrote:Does Cantr have a sky and a sun ?


Yes, Cantr does have a sun, it is very clear to anyone that owns a peice of clothing called glittering embroided bracers.

The description of the bracers is:

a pair of well crafted bracers fit snugly to the wearers arms, shimmering in the sunlight with their many diamonds, clear glass beads, and other valuable metals

Which also, if you think about it, proves that the sun is in the sky all the time. There can be no night in cantr, ever. That probably hould go in the Wiki...
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Postby west » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:32 pm

I prefer to think that one who wears the bracers is quite literally "enlightened" and the sun simply never ceases to shine on them.
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Postby SekoETC » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:57 pm

(Note to self: When making a game, make item descriptions alter during the cycle of day.)
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Postby Agar » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:31 pm

west wrote:*shrug* to each his own.

There's more than enough space in the game to play fully-realized, developed characters WITHOUT resorting to obvious OOC banter, including claiming you're an emperor from another planet. There is no body of literature or science in cantr to justify even your character's ability to make such a claim.


So ... this being from a PD aspirant ... does that mean what he's doing is actually wrong and he has been or needs to be contacted? I notice he's shut up, which is just as good, but it'd also be good to know the matter has been looked into.
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Postby west » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:31 am

I can't speak for the department as a whole but yes, I believe it's wrong and it has been frowned upon in the past, very explicitly by people up to and including Jos himself.
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Postby Oasis » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:13 am

This type of ic story is frowned upon. However, as Wichita has said, other characters are most likely to think of them as insane, or ignore them completely. (Okay, so some might actually believe the story, but that's their perogative :P This belief should be kept as private as possible, imo.)

From a PD perspective, it's a fine line, as Julie2 has indicated. Spaceships and aliens should not be used, as these concepts are beyond the comprehension of Cantrians.

Being brought forth into the world from a uterus is just plain ludicrous (from a Cantrians perspective), though as other body parts are assumed to exist, I don't see why not a uterus. Cantrians just wouldn't know it's purpose, as they are all spawned, not born.

That someone claims to be descended from anything is also ludicrous, and a concept unknown to Cantrians. Yes, the fellow is clearly insane. A CR breach? Borderline, but not serious. The biggest being the mention of "planets", which is not something that is normally assumed to exist beyond the Cantr realm.
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Postby Oasis » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:15 am

The Industriallist wrote:
Bowser wrote:
julie2 wrote:Does Cantr have a sky and a sun ?


Yes, Cantr does have a sun, it is very clear to anyone that owns a peice of clothing called glittering embroided bracers.

The description of the bracers is:

a pair of well crafted bracers fit snugly to the wearers arms, shimmering in the sunlight with their many diamonds, clear glass beads, and other valuable metals

Which also, if you think about it, proves that the sun is in the sky all the time. There can be no night in cantr, ever. That probably hould go in the Wiki...


Please don't do that. Yes, it glitters in the sunlight, but that doesn't mean the sunlight is on it all of the time.
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Postby Nick » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:18 am

"shimmering" is in the present tense. So you can look at it anytime, and see the sun shimmering off of it. People are awake at different hours of the day, what with our players being from all around the world.

I say Cantr has no night.
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Postby DylPickle » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:33 am

Not a night full of stars and a moon,
But using the word Night to signify the later stages of the day and the transition to a new day should be perfectly acceptable.
...Until someone decides to get off their ass and make a propper calender of some sorts... And then until people get off their asses and actualy use it. :wink:
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Postby Oasis » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:11 am

All because of a piece of jewelry? I think we need to change the description of the jewelry, not disallow the moon and stars.

"shimmering in the sun, moon, and starlight" Now that sounds silly, but if it's the definitive proof of our Cantrian world, then so be it. :roll:
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Postby kinvoya » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:36 am

Maybe Cantr has a night-time sun. Like a nightlight.
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Postby Shaderon » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:23 am

1301-1: [young woman] says: "Executive power derives from a mandate from the masses! If I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, because of a title I'd inherited by alien origins, they'd put me away. "

1301-1: [person in question] says: "[young woman]. *Laughs* I did not acquire any powers from a woman's uterus, or any other part of a woman. I am a lord by title. My right to rule comes to me from generations of rulers. Not from anywhere around here, of course, I don't even think my kingdom exists on this planet. But I am a person who is destined to rule, and if I can't rule where I belong, I will rule where I end up on this continent. It's not a mysterious power, it is a title that entitles me to power."

1301-1: [young woman] says: "*skeptical* Mysteriously acquired powers derived from a woman's uterus is no basis for a system of government"

1301-1: [person in question] says: "[town elder], this is the typical response... So let me ask, what do I need to do to gain enough trust (barring living in this community for an extended period of time) that will permit you or anyone in this town to view me as worthy as the least of you and have a weapon? And [young woman], you did not have to vote for me, I was born a Lord."


If you read this properly the man doesn't claim to be descended from anyone or from another planet. He says his title comes from generations of rulers... a generation is an age group... a group that has grown up in a certain time.. (e.g. the 60's generation or the 90's generation) Also he says his kingdon doesn't exist on this planet... that only says that he believes Cantr is a planet and his kingdon doesn't exist on it... not that is exists somewhere else. I think his only OOC thoughts here are the word "born" rather than spawned and the word "planet". Minor to me.

I persoanlly think that people talking to him are reading into what he's saying with human, not Cantrian ears and minds. Oh and BTW... aliens are just someone that doesn't belong in the area... a person in Cantr city might be from Kiriin and be considered an alien, it's another word for immigrant in a lot of places on earth... why not on Cantr, they use our language.
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Postby Schme » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:15 pm

Although this is entirely unimportant in my opnion, I just thought I'd point out that the young women also in a(technical) way, made a CR Breech.

Does anyone remember in the movie "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" when King Arthur happens upon the democratically ruled fiefdom, and after having told the inhabitants that he is King because the lady of the lake gave him Excalibur, they become angry, and one says "That makes no sense at all. If I went around saying I was an emperor, just because some wet broad lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

I just thought it was funny.
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Postby wm » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:28 pm

I find it rather strange that even though this guy has left the town in question, this person who goes by the handle agar is still trying to get him in trouble. I quote:

"So ... this being from a PD aspirant ... does that mean what he's doing is actually wrong and he has been or needs to be contacted? I notice he's shut up, which is just as good, but it'd also be good to know the matter has been looked into."

Sounds like someone was personally offended and is out on a vendetta...

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