Telephones

[Crosshair]

I feel quite stupid as i know not what any of that means... hey ho....

[Nakranoth]

Alright, glad I did a search... I believe this one pre-dates me...

But now that we already have radios, telephones don't seem (much) more advanced.

To start with, a control board gets built in the town square (to make everything else simpler) Then, when a phone gets built, (aproximately as expensive to make as a reciever) it recieves a generated number, which would be a 4 digit location number (assuming we don't have more then 9999 locations in Cantr), then a 2 digit unit number. (so that's 99 possible phones in a single city).

Phones would act as a transmitter to any connected phone that you know the number of, and reciever to anyone who calls it.

Wires would be run along roads, and to minimize processor intensive pathfinding algorithms, store in each location the controler numbers of all connected cities (and update it whenever a new wire/controler is finished).
So, the first controler (0001) gets connected through a controlerless city to the second ever build controler (0002). 0001 stores 0001 in it at construction. Then when the wire to the middle is built, it sees there's no controler there, and there's no other wires already there. 0001 gets stored there, and none are passed back. Then when the middle location is connected to 0002 it compares all the stored numbers in each location and sees 0002 doesn't have 0001 and the middle doesn't have 0002. Each gets stored to eachother, then because the middle's numbers changed, it checks all surrounding areas for missing numbers, and because 0001 doesn't have 0002, it's added there and the update's complete.

Hope that made sense... it was a lot harder to explain in depth then I'd realized...

[DELGRAD]

Carrier pigeons I can see that.
Everything else is because of being lazy.
Get your characters off their fat wealthy asses and do something.
Telephones. What next, dialup internet?

Next thing you know you are all going to be asking for fucking ICBM's and stealth bombers..

Why don't we just suggest Cantarian robots to do everything for us?

Cantarians are getting fat and lazy.

[Sicofonte]

Why don't we just suggest Cantarian robots to do everything for us?

We have them. We call them (fueled) harvestors and drilleres.

Come on, DELGRAD, do you like radios? Telephones are almost the same.

[Nakranoth]

Honestly, the only functional diffrence between telephones and radios would be that phones whould have the capacity to call cross-continentaly without being intercepted... you'd still need radios to do island to island communication... via parked vessels with repeaters in cabins/holds.

[DELGRAD]

We have them. We call them (fueled) harvestors and drilleres.

Still manned are they not? Not robots.

Telephones require a huge investment in infrastructure. Radios do not.

Really want telephones? OK, each pixel between towns would require 5 kilos worth of copper wire.

Or do you want cellular phones?
That would take huge amounts of iron, steel, aluminum and all else need for the towers(one per town). Then plastic, ICBs and the such for the phones. Not to mention the central communication points (you know, the building that routes all calls)( (one per town).
Towers and com points have no other purpose and can not have a room built within or an extension built from.

Still want phones? Build a copper drill running on petrol and it would take hundrends of Cantr years just to connect 1 or 2 towns .

Come on, DELGRAD, do you like radios? Telephones are almost the same.

In what wet dream?

Really want to undertake such a task?

Just suggest a stock exchange and get fatter and lazier.
Then you can waddle to-and-fro giving orders over your phones making yourself even fatter.

[tiddy ogg]

We must assume radios are solar powered, the vacuum tubes contain wood, so there's presumably a wood burning filament.
Telephones, like railways indeed need a lot of resources, so, to my mind, they just aren't practical. This is presumably why radios were introduced instead. we're still waiting for signal flags!

[Nakranoth]

Alright... again... always remember that gameplay balance comes before realism... so it would honestly be similar in cost to roads to wire a single city to another. Also again, the practicalities lie in that it would allow for cross continental calls that don't spam every radio along the way... (but would still function like radios in it speaking to the room it's in) An individual phone could be cheaper then an individual radio, but the network of extra infrastructure buffers that decrease in mid-phase costs.

And Delgrad... are you saying they're too powerful, or too expensive? Because you seem to be saying both in the same post...

[Sicofonte]

We must assume radios are solar powered

Nonono.
Thats the same as assuming that vehicles (before fuel was implemented) were solar powered.
Solar energy is technologically expensive and advanced.

Do you know the windup clocks?
This is what I assume.

the vacuum tubes contain wood, so there's presumably a wood burning filament.

Vacuum tubes are only glass.
The wood in the project is the fuel for the glass beans melting.

[Sicofonte]

do you want cellular phones?
That would take huge amounts of iron, steel, aluminum and all else need for the towers(one per town). Then plastic, ICBs and the such for the phones. Not to mention the central communication points (you know, the building that routes all calls) (one per town).
Towers and com points have no other purpose and can not have a room built within or an extension built from.

You forgot the satellites, and the rockets to put them on the sky.

Come on, DELGRAD, do you like radios? Telephones are almost the same.

In what wet dream?

In one where the frequencies for terrestrial TV emissions are used instead for communications:
radio cellphone <-> local antenna (similar to the TV ones, plus the emitter, could be on a vehicle or even in a bag) <-> low frequency communication all over the world (no need of satellites)

And for free, you will avoid deafness, blindness, tumors and so on drawbacks of using microwaves (high frequency) for frying your brain.

Tha bad new would be that no so much people could be talking in the same street simultaneously, and videoconference would occupy several channels (so two or three people videochatting in a town, and no one else can call until they finish).

[Reindeer^]

I am so old-fashioned person that I don´t like this suggestion!
I think it is better to walk (or drive) to the person you want to meet or try to contact him or her with radio. More excitement!

Wires would be run along roads, and to minimize processor intensive pathfinding algorithms, store in each location the controler numbers of all connected cities (and update it whenever a new wire/controler is finished).
So, the first controler (0001) gets connected through a controlerless city to the second ever build controler (0002). 0001 stores 0001 in it at construction. Then when the wire to the middle is built, it sees there's no controler there, and there's no other wires already there. 0001 gets stored there, and none are passed back. Then when the middle location is connected to 0002 it compares all the stored numbers in each location and sees 0002 doesn't have 0001 and the middle doesn't have 0002. Each gets stored to eachother, then because the middle's numbers changed, it checks all surrounding areas for missing numbers, and because 0001 doesn't have 0002, it's added there and the update's complete.

[Liljum]

If this gets implemented... Won't it work as an exact alternative to the radio? (Do the same thing as the radio?) Mayby if this was a suggestion for cellphones i would probably join up.