Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby Genie » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:23 pm

I think there are some -very- robotic characters which are disturbed from almost any kind of humanly acts, there are some attention seekers who are walking around with a warning label as : " Hey hey look at me, I am making rp, pay attention to me ! ". Out of these two genres there are good characters giving us some nice pharagraps at times and I like reading them,responding them, playing with them. Sometimes just eating an apple,drinking or sewing with a friend can be most fun. Altough all are cantrians and mostly characters have their own minds, even if I have to admit I am getting nervous at times this makes Cantr life different and challenging, I appreciate the variety.

P.S: I love childish chars, I think they are nice.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby Cdls » Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:50 pm

Holy hell, incoming wall of text.

bnlphan wrote:I'm referencing what I call excessive RP. Examples:

1. When a character emote every single action they make. Long drawn out paragraphs detailing anything remotely involved with their action to the point where I'm wondering why they dont take time to point out that their character is breathing.
2. Disabilities. Mental and physical. I've tried this in the past. I see the desire to do it, but it doesnt interest me and when it dominates the gameplay of others I just tend to ignore it and them.
3. Excessive reactions to weather and animals attacks.
4. Manufactured drama. I like a lot of the drama caused in game by evil/bad characters. Pirates and thieves and the like, but when its done just for the sake of stirring up trouble because the character has the maturity of a twelve year old then I'll just pass.


1) Depends on the situation. If it fits within the context of what is going on (ie. dancing, playing out some sort of theater showing, etc), then such descriptive RP should be encouraged. On the other hand, if it is one of the dramallama's just letting people know it is still breathing, then someone needs to separate it from the pack and begin a slaughtering project.

2) If the disabilities are done right (ie. don't suddenly disappear or get better when it benefits said character) then I disagree with it. Otherwise, those that use temporary disabilities to satiate their current boredom deserve to be ignored.

3) What is your definition of excessive?

4) The character cannot have the maturity of a twelve year old, because twelve year olds do not exist in Cantr. :lol:


SekoETC wrote:In real life basically only immature teenagers would call someone a retard but I think it's more common in Cantr.

More common on the Internet in general.


Optimus Christ wrote:The simple fact is this. When you are doing short RP, there is a lot open to interpretation. What I see my characters do in my mind, fits just right, so I RP exactly what it is, regardless if it's one sentence, or eight. I'm not about to have other characters decide what mine are doing, and I want to put the idea in their mind -exactly- what my character is doing.


This +1
Although I wont write a paragraph about a single action (unless it is actually necessary), I do think enough should be conveyed to give all involved a clear picture.

Uma wrote:the thirty year old children are kind of creepy :)


I find the players rushing around trying to hook up with the thirty year old children even creepier. 8)

SekoETC wrote:I think characters should grow up eventually, but early thirties it should still be acceptable to play a child. In your forties and fifties, not so much. I wish people would act their age with a possible minus 10 to 15 years. Of course once you reach your sixties, you can start treating your characters as something like an elf in the way that they don't age like humans.

I disagree. Cantr aging is nothing like human aging. While I have nothing against people playing out their characters mental/emotional development/maturity, it should be done for the sake of RP for that character and not because of real world ideology on where a person should be developed within a certain age group.

miirkaelisaar wrote:in fact I would rather take ALL the disabled and baby-talk characters, over any ONE of the sex-crazed, violent, drama-queen, or irritating newspawn thief characters that you all think are so fun to play

I think what you meant was 'some of you'?

miirkaelisaar wrote:Especially if it's my character injured, and others choose to ignore it, it makes me really irritated at the players for being what I can only assume is lazy, because if some girl was in town flirting with every man there, they'll all respond, but if a bear bites my arm off, it's too boring for the other players, it makes cantr really dull and irritating, like you can't take 30 seconds to say "Ow that thing bit me, it hurts!" To make your character a real person and not the Terminator?


This +1
Nothing seems to wake a town up like the spawning of a woman....

ColormeGreen wrote:As I've mentioned earlier though, there are certainly paragraph emoters that annoy the crap out of me. Especially the ones that get haughty when you don't give them the attention they are clearly seeking by their actions.


This as well. Agreed,
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby Majix » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:03 pm

If we were to play children we would spawn at the age 0.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby *Wiro » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:27 pm

I tend to write a bit much, but I'm prepared to let people ignore them. Ain't nobody got time for that. :lol:
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby SekoETC » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:30 pm

No one can say their character is a child because they're spawned at twenty, but you can play a childish character, a midget, a childish midget, a character who looks like a child and so forth. There could be more characters who look like an adult but act like a child, or vice versa.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby Majix » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:34 pm

SekoETC wrote:No one can say their character is a child because they're spawned at twenty, but you can play a childish character, a midget, a childish midget, a character who looks like a child and so forth. There could be more characters who look like an adult but act like a child, or vice versa.


With a father and a mother? I'm sorry, that doesn't work at all for me.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby Genie » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:43 pm

Majix wrote:If we were to play children we would spawn at the age 0.

There is such a thing as " Autism" and many are seeking more realism in Cantr so why not? Sure it is foolish to play a kind of baby char or one with disabilities of a kid, but nothing bad about rping an altered or naive mind. They are not making drama, not harming other chars , some are even helping towns. Maybe you have met some boring ones but I wouldn't change few I know to many adults.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby SekoETC » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:46 pm

Majix, well you can't have NPC parents but if some real characters agree to being the parents, there's nothing wrong with that. And being a childish character doesn't necessarily require having parents.

I had one character spawn childish but he was told straight off the bat that his mother must've abandoned him, and he would only get to see her in the afterlife. He accepted that without questioning and didn't even miss her.

Another character of mine spawned childish and handicapped, and has people taking care of her, yet no one has ever claimed to be her parent and when someone brought up the term "child", everybody acted confused and didn't know what it meant.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby ColormeGreen » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:00 pm

Genie wrote: There is such a thing as " Autism" .... They are not making drama, not harming other chars , some are even helping towns.


I actually play quite a few characters with disabilities, but I try (and hopefully succeed) at never using it as an excuse for drama. I like to play disabilities to offer a bit of variety to the game and also depth to those characters.

I won't name people or places so that I don't give my characters away, but my disabled chars include:

-a character with mild photoallergy, but played so that most probably wouldn't even realize it. Instead, most seem to think she's just a little bothered by the warmth of the sun. She spends most her time indoors and doesn't try to drag the whole town in with her. She's almost 30 and I bet half of the town doesn't even know her name.

-a character with autism who yes, acts like a child. She occasionally has fits when she doesn't understand those around her, but she's found a welcoming community, unlike her spawntown who seemed to think she was created for drama purposes. She's also approaching 30.

-a mute who also has arthritis. She's not an attention seeker and knows very few people. She's probably the most cliche of my disabled characters, but the arthritis thing was an attempt to make her unique. I don't really play it out that often out of sheer forgetfulness. I don't think anyone even realizes she has it.

-a girl whose memory is, for all intents and purposes, completely dysfunctional. She only remembers very vague ideas and can't remember people's identities unless she spends years with them. Outside of her own town, she's not even known for her lack of memory because I don't push it into people's faces unnaturally. If it has a chance to surface naturally, then so be it.

-a bi-polar (?) anorexic. I don't know if she's a drama starter, but I don't think she is. I'm not even sure if she's bi-polar, but if she is, it's not crazily exaggerated. She doesn't play the whole 'woe is me!' game because she's often hungry, either.

-a pain addict. I don't really see any TRUE addicts being played, but I do my best to conform to the actual signs and symptoms of someone who is addicted to something. This includes the needs for 'fixes'. Of all my characters, she's the most dramatical, but her biggest platform is NOT playing a victim.

-a character with face blindness. I thought this would be a really cool disorder to play, but unfortunately, it doesn't work very well in cantr. With so few opportunities to meet new people, and so vastly different looking characters, it never got it's chance to surface without me TRYING to put it in people's faces. I didn't want to play DramaLlama, however, so I've been trying to adapt the disorder to be more fitting to the game. So far, I'd say it's a complete failure, but I do think it was an interesting idea.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby kicking jay » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:04 pm

Those'd fit well in the character quirks thread. I may or not know one of those, but I'm inspired nonetheless.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby miirkaelisaar » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:38 pm

I like to make my characters' quirks as varied as possible, like not make too many too similar, though mostly with physical disabilities. Alternatively some less noticable disabilities spread over several characters. Like I have a few who have similar mental or emotional issues or disorders. I have a few who are anorexic, a couple with borderline agoraphobia, afraid to leave town and sometimes afraid to even be outside (this is usually related to past trauma from animal/human attacks on the character) and a few, mostly all the same ones as above, have social anxiety. My oldest has serious issues talking to strangers and even the few people he's close to. One has social anxiety AND a speech impediment so he rarely speaks to other people at all.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby kicking jay » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:55 pm

Many of my past disabled characters have been entire failures, due to my inability to do justice to them as I wish to.
Plenty of my chars are asocial or antisocial. There's a handful of nice people who like to talk, though.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby Swingerzetta » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:24 pm

I have seen childish characters who make me cringe of second-hand embarrasement every time they talk, and I have seen mentally challenged characters who I would follow anywhere, if I had a good excuse to, just so I could experience how they're played more often. It really depends on how it's done, and probably WHY it's done. The childish characters that I didn't like were much more rare, and were obviously not trying to replicate any real-world mental challenges, they just wanted to play children...

In the worst examples, were almost totally blind to anything going on unless it related to their 'mommies and daddies'. I'm not going to tell them to stop playing that way, though. I'm just going to ignore them as much as they ignore me. When it's done well, though, it's different. Owch of Bhak, for example, was childish because he spawned with no basic knowledge, and had to (believably) learn language and social rules. His character seemed more brain-damaged than childish, and part of his charm was that he actually did learn, and quickly. He suffered from other problems that I never quite figured out, though, and his lifespan wasn't as long as I would have liked.
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby Shedevil » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:25 am

It's odd sometimes.. watching characters with huge age differences become romantically involved.. Sometimes I just can't help but picture some really old guy on the verge of death, dating someone who looks like she should still be in high school, and vice versa..
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Re: Things that annoy or puzzle you about Cantr

Postby SumBum » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:39 am

Shedevil wrote:It's odd sometimes.. watching characters with huge age differences become romantically involved.. Sometimes I just can't help but picture some really old guy on the verge of death, dating someone who looks like she should still be in high school, and vice versa..



I rarely pay any attention to age unless another char points it out. And then I'm often offended that the other char would think the "old" char is actually elderly. In Cantr, chars only get better at skills/stronger as they age. Only if their desc shows graying hair or wrinkles do I consider them to be elderly and even that gets overlooked by me depending on how the char acts.
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