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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Snickie » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:16 pm

Think about it. Burying people is about digging a hole, tossing a body in it, and covering it back up. It doesn't matter where the dirt goes as long as it goes back in the pile.
Digging to get resources requires that you don't just discard everything you dig up like you do when burying.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby SumBum » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:21 pm

It's an assumption that Cantrians dig holes to bury a body. :P You can "bury" a body on a ship.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Joshuamonkey » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:42 pm

SumBum wrote:It's an assumption that Cantrians dig holes to bury a body. :P You can "bury" a body on a ship.


So then burying it's actually more related to "dragging". :wink: Who knows where the body goes to.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Snickie » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:46 pm

It goes to wherever the excess resources from when the "drag from vehicle on a road to [location 0]" bug that a bunch of Poles exploited was still around.

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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby *Wiro » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:00 pm

Snickie wrote:It goes to wherever the excess resources from when the "drag from vehicle on a road to [location 0]" bug that a bunch of Poles exploited was still around.

:shock:


What was that bug?
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Bmot » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:41 pm

*Wiro wrote:
Snickie wrote:It goes to wherever the excess resources from when the "drag from vehicle on a road to [location 0]" bug that a bunch of Poles exploited was still around.

:shock:


What was that bug?


I don't know about the bug, but logic tells me that it was possible to drag resources out of a travelling vehicle, and as roads are "location 0" and "location 0" can't hold resources, the resources disappear?
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby *Wiro » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:50 pm

Oh, right, because the "drag from" feature is relatively new.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Snickie » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:05 pm

No, the "drag from" feature has nothing to do with it. Used to, if you had a bunch of excess resources (think "large bones" or "hide" in a town that has iron and cotton everything), you could put it all on a vehicle, drive out onto the road, "drag" it all out, and come back and there's no evidence it ever existed. The Poles abused this a lot... well, at least, people abused it using vehicles with Polish names. It has since been fixed.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby kicking jay » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:12 am

Why is it that I always have such more developed and interesting female characters? All my male chars are so impossibly boring, no matter how hard I try to make them interesting, while it seems even the female characters that I spawn with only the most nebulous idea of who they are develop as if of their own accord into interesting people that are joys to play as. Maybe it's the fact that I'm male, and the difference between my own character and that of those chars is wide enough for them to be truly their own character? Still, it's weird that I can't come up with a good male char. This happens in writing, also. Ach.

Why should there be a difference?
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Tangential » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:36 pm

I'm envious that you have the comfort to give life to a female character while you, as a player, are male, kicking jay. Perhaps this is more a mental barrier for me, as I always default to the mindset that I would never be able to play a female character with the respect she would deserve. Probably because I find women so beautifully complex. I think I'm more comfortable cherishing the art instead of being the painter.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby miirkaelisaar » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:45 pm

Tangential wrote:I'm envious that you have the comfort to give life to a female character while you, as a player, are male, kicking jay. Perhaps this is more a mental barrier for me, as I always default to the mindset that I would never be able to play a female character with the respect she would deserve. Probably because I find women so beautifully complex. I think I'm more comfortable cherishing the art instead of being the painter.


I'm the exact opposite, I've always felt more comfortable playing the opposite gender, but I don't know if it's that I'm better at writing the opposite gender, or because I have my own gender identity issues that make it harder to identify with characters that share my gender. Also I've always played more effeminate, submissive males and more independent, dominant females, I've never tried playing either gender in a "traditional" gender role, I feel like in that situation either male or female would be awkward for me. For some reason I get super uncomfortable playing any character in a "traditional male" or "traditional female" style, such as a dainty soft-spoken woman, or a tall muscular ladies-man. I don't know what it is.

And certainly not just roleplaying, ever since I was a child writing little stories I could never get a feel of the characters that shared my natural gender.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Doug R. » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:10 pm

kicking jay wrote:Why is it that I always have such more developed and interesting female characters? All my male chars are so impossibly boring, no matter how hard I try to make them interesting, while it seems even the female characters that I spawn with only the most nebulous idea of who they are develop as if of their own accord into interesting people that are joys to play as. Maybe it's the fact that I'm male, and the difference between my own character and that of those chars is wide enough for them to be truly their own character? Still, it's weird that I can't come up with a good male char. This happens in writing, also. Ach.

Why should there be a difference?


I have the same issue. I think it's just because my males become versions of "me," while my females have the freedom to become their own people.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby kicking jay » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:31 pm

Doug R. wrote:
kicking jay wrote:Why is it that I always have such more developed and interesting female characters? All my male chars are so impossibly boring, no matter how hard I try to make them interesting, while it seems even the female characters that I spawn with only the most nebulous idea of who they are develop as if of their own accord into interesting people that are joys to play as. Maybe it's the fact that I'm male, and the difference between my own character and that of those chars is wide enough for them to be truly their own character? Still, it's weird that I can't come up with a good male char. This happens in writing, also. Ach.

Why should there be a difference?


I have the same issue. I think it's just because my males become versions of "me," while my females have the freedom to become their own people.


Exactly. All I can say is I need a greater barrier between my own personality and that of similar characters.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Snickie » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:40 pm

I have problems roleplaying male characters.
The only good one was Narrator, and that could've been pulled off by either gender (although it seemed to fit better in a male body than a female, and it's a good thing he never got into a sexual situation XD).
Two of them had bad self-esteem issues and as a result were very submissive.
I have a "normal" one but it's difficult to maintain that because, frankly, I'm not good at it. He had a girlfriend whom he loved dearly. She was the only one he had ever seriously flirted with. I don't think I could have played it any other way even if I wanted to.

Heck, I can't play flirty characters, period.

What's difficult to me about playing female characters is not letting them become me. And as long as they're not me, I have to make them consistent, which is kind of difficult. I can play on different parts of my own personality to make them different, but it's difficult to make them not-me otherwise.
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Re: Thought or Rant of the day!!!

Postby Otherside » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:36 am

I've had a few female characters... they were always strong-willed, determined, feisty or opinionated.. tom-boyish probably, and most of them managed to avoid any love interests.

I cannot stand overly cute girl characters (sorry), especially when I guess they're played by male players (the most irritating ones must be). I don't know why but it's always a car crash in my mind. Some people love them, so I'll just go back to my grumpy corner. :wink:

My male chars do remain very different, though are mostly extensions, but even my baddest, most confident characters suffer from pangs of balance/real life from time to time. If anyone can play without doing that, I don't know how you do it..
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