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Postby wichita » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:11 pm

The Surly Cantrian wrote:That all changed. And on topic... A German pope? And a traditionalist... not the best choice in my opinion. WHat does everyone else think?


Well...all the other denominations are becoming more liberal, so if the Catholics become more conservative that will help to keep "christianity" balanced I would say. So it's a good thing in that sense.

Oh, and I am from a non-denominational Church of Christ background, which translated means I was rainsed by Protestants, that don't accept the title of Protestant and think all other Protestants are still doing it wrong, but just don't want to organize another National Council to decide on doctrine. Oh yeah, and the doctrines of my non-denominational church are better than the other non-denominational churches because God wouldn't let us be wrong. :wink: Denominations are such funny things aren't they?
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Postby Schme » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:13 pm

Funny in a sort of dull sense, yes.
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Postby Nixit » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:29 pm

Wow. This stuff is a lot more complicated than I thought. But not all Christians believe in the trinity right?
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Postby Where are all the monkeys » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:34 pm

I think a less conservative pope would have been a better option,but since most of the cardinals were made so by the previous-conservative- pope, It unfortuanatly means was never a very likly option...
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Postby Nixit » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:38 pm

I think he's only like a temporary sort of pope... that's why they elected him, because he's old.
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Postby Where are all the monkeys » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:45 pm

I agree, It does seem likely. He was the oldest pope the rules of the church allow
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Postby Surly » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:43 pm

If they think that Benedict XVI is going to die soon, they will be sorely disappointed... that man is dangerously healthy...

And while all Christianity believes in the Trinity (that is the 3 in 1), not all denominations believe in the equality of said Trinity. If that makes any sense..
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Postby Schme » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:01 am

I disagree with the suggestion that a less conservative pope would be better somehow.


It would be better for those with liberal agendas, in gaining the acceptance and the support of the church.

If you want to do something that the Church officials disagree with, you'll have to form your own sect, I'm afraid.

Or they could execomunicate you. Both make you look equally bad.
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Postby Nixit » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:31 am

Except that there are like at least a dozen of different denominations... so I don't think another would make someone look bad.
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Postby west » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:31 am

Christians that don't believe in the doctrine of the Trinity are called "heretics" or "not christians" by most other Christians.

I mean, it's one of the fundaments of the faith. This may not be the case with other religions, but Christianity isn't really a buffet-line faith.
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Postby Schme » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:37 am

Buffet line?Not one? That's completly untrue.

Look at modern Europe and North America. Look at protestanism.
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Postby Schme » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:38 am

Nixit wrote:Except that there are like at least a dozen of different denominations... so I don't think another would make someone look bad.


Not if your denomination has less than about 40 million people, and even then, your still sort of considered lunatic fringe. Gotta color within the lines to a degree, in this game.
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Postby Nixit » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:42 am

Well, alright... *shrugs* ...I don't know much about this... so I'll quietly leave... *quietly leaves*
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Postby Stan » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:42 am

schme wrote:Buffet line?Not one? That's completly untrue.

Look at modern Europe and North America. Look at protestanism.


Those differences are a matter of church rule not Christian Truths.

All Christian denominations believe in the Apostle's Creed. Those that do not subscribe to the Creed are considered to be a sect or a cult...not Christian.
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Postby Nixit » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:43 am

Now a sect would be Opus Dei... yikes!
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