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Barley Bread

Postby joshua johnson » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:03 pm

Maybe I am wrong...but I am pretty sure that Barley can be ground to flour and baked into bread or other things, much like wheat.

I don't think this grain has a use in game, but this would make sense.
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Postby joshua johnson » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:16 pm

Does anyone agree or disagree with making Bread from Barley?
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Postby Talapus » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:38 pm

All of the recipies I could find for barley bread involved another flour as well (wheat flour usually, although I found one involving garbonzo bean flour). If you could grind up barley into flour, and mix it with wheat flour and cook, perhaps you could create bread that is more effecient, or you can cook more at a time? You would have to provide some interesting benefit over normal bread for it to be viable, but I think the idea overall is a good one.
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Postby Chris Johnson » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:00 pm

I've no real problems with this suggestion, but I can think of a couple of better uses of barley which either involve hops or distillation

( sits back thinking about a nice 12 year old single-malt speyside whisky ... 8) )
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Postby Racetyme » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:38 pm

I'm all for alchohol, I can't wait to get a raving drunk created, I don't have a drain on society character yet.
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Postby warfreak » Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:36 am

you can't really have barley bread by itself you know. You have to add something to the mix. And, I'm all for the drinking idea.

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Postby Lumin » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:20 pm

It'll probably be awhile until alcohol is introduced. In the meantime I say give us some bread. I've seen plenty of places with barley that would benefit from another food source. And specialization is supposed to be the new buzzword around here, isn't it? Bakeries are specialized.

Talapus wrote:All of the recipies I could find for barley bread involved another flour as well (wheat flour usually, although I found one involving garbonzo bean flour). If you could grind up barley into flour, and mix it with wheat flour and cook, perhaps you could create bread that is more effecient, or you can cook more at a time? You would have to provide some interesting benefit over normal bread for it to be viable, but I think the idea overall is a good one.


I've never seen a recipe where bread is made from nothing but wheat flour, either, but that doesn't seem to stop anyone in Cantr. Sometimes it's possible to go overboard with realism...
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Postby Racetyme » Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:58 pm

Amen, realism is not the be all and end all of cantr!
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Postby colonel » Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:08 pm

I got this from a web site and I will look into it more but I just thought I would post this just to help out.

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Uses of Barley
Half or more of the barley grown in the United States is used for livestock feed. As feed it is nearly equal in nutritive value to kernel corn. It is especially valuable as hog feed, giving desirable portions of firm fat and lean meat. The entire kernel is used in feed, generally after grinding or steam rolling. Malt sprouts from malting as well as brewers grain--byproducts of brewing--are also valuable livestock feeds.

Around 25 percent of the barley crop is used for malting in the United States. Of the malted barley some 80 percent is used for beer, around 14 percent for distilled alcohol products, and 6 percent for malt syrup, malted milk and breakfast foods. For malting, the barley is steeped in aerated water in large tanks for 45 to 65 hours, then transferred to germinating tanks or compartments where it is held with intermittent stirring for 5 to 7 days at temperatures of 60-70°F. During this treatment root sprouts emerge, but not the stems. This "green" malt is then dried in hot air kilns. For making beer the dried malt is crushed between rollers, mixed in proper proportions with slightly warm water, and held under rigidly controlled temperatures. The starch is converted by enzymatic reaction into maltose and dextrins. Proteins are also broken down by enzyme action. Upon completion of this process the solids settle out, the extract is filtered, then boiled with hops to add flavor, then cooled. Yeast is added to ferment the sugars into alcohol and carbon dioxide. The hop residue and proteins are then removed and the product (beer) is aged, chilled, filtered, pasteurized and bottled. Keg beer is similar but is not pasteurized or bottled. The solids from this process (brewer's grain) are a valuable livestock feed.

Barley for human food is made into pearl barley by using abrasive disks to grind the hulls and bran off the kernels. Alter three successive "Pearlings" or grinding operations all the bull and most of the bran is removed. At this stage the remaining kernel part is known as pot barley. Two or three additional pearlings produce pearl barley, in which most of the embryo is removed. These later pearlings also produce barley flour. Pot and pearl barley are used in soups and dressings. The flour is used in baby foods and breakfast cereals, or mixed with wheat flour in baking.

Barley is also grown as a hay crop in some areas. For hay, only smooth-awned varieties or awnless are used. Winter barley also may be pastured moderately before the stems start to elongate. It furnishes nutritive pasturage, and grain yields are not seriously reduced.
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Postby Seeker » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:53 am

Racetyme wrote:I'm all for alchohol, I can't wait to get a raving drunk created, I don't have a drain on society character yet.


Yeah about that...how does that work in cantr?
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Postby formerly known as hf » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:26 pm

it doesn't...

not yet at least
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Postby theguy » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:28 pm

I know how beer /wine could be made it would use

so many grams of grape and barley (and possibley something else)

it would be a healing food (correct me but isent wine put into cuts to make it better or dose it sting)

alchol is ok but it would make you drunk (there is alredy a bar for it)

and then there would be a reson for being drunk mabey it would be that anybody drunk would act like an animal (randomley attack people ) and not be as skill ful in things (e.g if a charecter is an expert with a bow they would use it aukwardly) the more drunk the worse the effects.
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Postby Racetyme » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:15 pm

Drunkness needs to be rped, otherwise it would be very stupid. However the decrease in skills is good, I think.
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Postby Schme » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:43 am

Yes, I don't think drunkness is going to work at all. As has often been said, it will only be used by the best and worst role players.

But that's a whole other topic.
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Postby Pie » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:50 am

Yea.. Instead of barly bread.. Lets make BEER!!!! And ALCOHOL POISINING IS WHAT THAT BAR IS FORE!!!

And.. when you drink beer.. it does nothing but when you put it on a wound(there could be a button for it) It would actually HEAL SOME OF YOUR HELTH!! And prevent infection.. if that is EVER IMPLUMENTED.

And this would create the begining for spetialised mixtur thingys to put on your wounds. And could probably be the begening of getting WOUNDS instead of HELTH. Well, the all knowing helth bar would be there to.. but you could click on a button to look at indevitual wounds( You can look at the one that is three years old.. or the one that is brand new)

But that is for another topic. Wich... I AM GOING TO MAKE.. RIGHT NOW!!!
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