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Help an American learn Polish

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:52 pm
by wichita
Witaj! I have slowly been trying to learn Polish but it has been very hard to find a good online dictionary. I am not looking for an English-Polish Polish-English translator, (becaue I know they are very bad! ;) ) as much as a dictionary and some grammar references.

Any advice?

I have been studying a little at Unilang.org

Dzięki :D

Re: Help an American learn Polish

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:01 pm
by Gulczak
Witaj! :P
It is very nice that you want to teach my native tongue yourself. I am proud of you! It is a translator on the side http://translatica.pwn.pl/ . But I know that you don\'t need english-polish translators...

I po polsku.

To bardzo miłe, że chcesz nauczyć się mojego ojczystego języka! jestem dumny z ciebie! To jest translator na stronie http://translatica.pwn.pl/ . Ale wiem, że nie potrzebujesz angielsko-polskiego tłumacza.

you are the first foreigner which wants to learn Polish!

jesteś pierwszym obcokrajowcem, która chce się uczyć polskiego!

and therefore i am writing this post. Only so far!

i dlatego pisze tego posta. Tylko tak dalej!

Heh, brawo! :P

Re: Help an American learn Polish

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:09 pm
by Artur
my advice: find someone from Poland who will teach you, I dont think that you'll find a good website, dictionary or translator, I'm a pole and I cant speak polish nor english too well, so I guess you'll have a problem with that :P If you want to write something in Polish Forum write it in english, most of us understand it a little bit, but if you truly want to learn polish language, I wish you luck :twisted:

Re: Help an American learn Polish

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:14 pm
by Obcy
Gulczak wrote:Witaj! :P
It is very nice that you want to teach my native tongue yourself. I am proud of you! It is a translator on the side http://translatica.pwn.pl/ . But I know that you don\'t need english-polish translators...

I po polsku.

To bardzo miłe, że chcesz nauczyć się mojego ojczystego języka! jestem dumny z ciebie! To jest translator na stronie http://translatica.pwn.pl/ . Ale wiem, że nie potrzebujesz angielsko-polskiego tłumacza.

you are the first foreigner which wants to learn Polish!

jesteś pierwszym obcokrajowcem, która chce się uczyć polskiego!

and therefore i am writing this post. Only so far!

i dlatego pisze tego posta. Tylko tak dalej!

Heh, brawo! :P


Przetłumaczyłeś to tym translatorem? :shock:

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:19 pm
by Rusalka
Polish is the most difficult language I know, Wichy. Are you sure what you want to get involved in? - I admire your motivation though :D

I've found this:
http://www.skwierzyna.net/learn_polish.htm

might be helpful. Good luck! :)

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:45 pm
by marshall
I see that you learn much already ;) Now you are one of us our brother :]
First lesson: "witaj" is singular, in plural you must say "witajcie" ;)
Sorry for my english :)

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:55 pm
by Gulczak
"witajcie" is 2 person, plural number. "Witaj" is 3 person singular number.
so, i am writting a persons on Polish Leangues in singular, for the good beginning.
I ja
You ty
he on
she ona
it ono

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:13 am
by Gnom
Gulczak wrote:"Witaj" is 3 person singular number.


Really? ;) I think "witaj" it is second person singular number. ;)

And good luck Wichita, you will need that... :)

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:32 pm
by Gulczak
Gnom wrote:
Gulczak wrote:"Witaj" is 3 person singular number.


Really? ;) I think "witaj" it is second person singular number. ;)

And good luck Wichita, you will need that... :)


Heh, thats fact. But there are nine milons bicykles in bejage :P

3 person singular namber is:
"Wita"
He, she, it : "Wita"

EDIT: eeee... secret? :P

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:37 pm
by wichita
Dzięki! Dzięki! :D This is great! As soon as I get my personal computer fixed I will start browsing through some of these sites.

Unfortunately, my hard drive crashed and now I am stuck with my linux workstation in my office (without root access so I cannot customize locales, etc. :( ). It is very annoying trying to view nearly anything foreign at the moment.

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:43 pm
by Gulczak
I will recomend some polish information sites. Thats good for exercises.

http://www.wp.pl
http://www.onet.pl
http://www.cantr.net/?l=9 :P

or a polish parody (?) of wikipedia. Very funny site.
http://nonsensopedia.wikia.com

And "Dzięki" is popular short form from "dziękuje". "Dzięki" is only slang mode :D
(I) thanks: (ja) Dziękuje
(You) thanks: (ty) Dziękujesz
(He, she, it) thanks:(on, ona, ono) Dziękuje

(We) thanks: (my) Dziękujemy
(You) thanks: (wy) dziękujecie
(They) thanks: (oni) dziękują

EDIT: bad adress :P of site.

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:57 pm
by Chimaira_00
Well, if you want to learn polish, I wish ye luck. You'll need it :D

Anyway - it's good to find a tutor who will help you, because there are a lot of trouble when learning all by yourself ;)

Polish is rather difficult language - it's based on flection (?)(you know, conjugate the verbs, declinate the nouns etc.), therefore it has a lot of exceptions and exceptions to exceptions, idioms, phrasems etc. ;). Unfortunately, most of the grammar rules are really nasty.

You must, I think, learn the various endings of words, while conjugating/declinating particular word.

For starting, I think, it's good to learn vocabulary, and some basic words and later, their variants (conjugating etc.). You may look at http://ling.pl or http://www.leksyka.pl - these are two vocabularies, probably the best in the polish internet. The first one is completely free, you just type english word, and then click either "szukaj wszędzie" which means "search everywhere", or better - click the polish flag.

The leksyka.pl is partially free (but in my opinion much better than ling.pl), you can browse through most common words - the procedure is the same, you type in the word and then click "eng-pol" near the typing box.
Unfortunately when you'll need some specific word, e.g. militaristic or religious, the service suddenly shows you a finger and force you to pay small amount of money to browse these words (day, or seven days of subscription). As far as I know, this service is available only in Poland, through sms-system :(

Anyway, if you'll encounter some problems while learning polish, don't hesitate to ask me - I've studied polish philology for a few years, and as far as I'm concerned, my english isn't that bad, as I think it is ;)

And good luck!
(in polish - "powodzenia!")

BTW, to mój pierwszy post tutaj na forum, zatem witam innych użytkowników ;)

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:19 pm
by Artur
Wichita, try to ask around in game for non-english language islands, and simply get your char there, it could be a way to learn polish... I'm doing kinda the same , but not for learning purposes...

















...but for WAR :!: :!: :twisted: :twisted: 8)

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:35 pm
by Legalus
I hope you will learn our Language. I wish you luck, you gonna need it.

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:14 pm
by in vitro...
Gnom, Gulczak, "witaj" = "hi" AND a verb "to welcome".


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