Cantr II Discussion Forum

Two characters in Dory, Alysonn Fursiun and Allwynn Krysonna, spawned the same day, are always awake at the same time, and refer to each other as "my friend" frequently.

It seems a bit unlikely that they're played by different characters.

They're not cheating, exactly, but I always thought this sort of thing was frowned upon.

I was going to post this.

I'm just too lazy to get around to it before somebody else...

It does seem suspicious to me.

They've admitted they're the same person but apparently don't see anything wrong with it.

Throw them in Jail!

I could use the company ...

If they aren't cheating and play the characters as separate characters that have different goals for their lives then there's not much to say that it's wrong. You are allowed to have, what?, two people in the same town? Personnally I hate it when my characters end up in the same town, so I usually ship one off, but if this person wants to have them in the same town for awhile, so long as they aren't cheating, then get over it.

And yes, I have a character in Dory, and I've seen nothing wrong with the way they're interacting. They introduced themselves to each other and many other people, have had actual conversations betwixt themselves in the hearing of the town, etc.. They're being played as separate characters, simple as that. Just maybe not as discreetly as some people might like to see.

But, regardless, they aren't doing anything wrong. Nothing they've done actually crosses the line. It may look like it pushes it, but it doesn't cross it. Read the Capital Rule again. When they actually do something wrong, then report it.

woah woah woah!!

Now...before people go around just throwing people in jail here, let's look at this from the other side...Yes, I understand it is frowned upon for characters to "automatically know each other" as some put it, but she has had the characters introduce each other, has she not? Yes, she could have had them be enemies, she could have had them leave or just one leave, OR she could have had them become friends....is this not what happens between other characters that are NOT owned by the same people?? I mean...All of my characters are friends with some people, are they not? I'm sure at least one or more of your characters have made friends with other people, have they not? Then what's the big deal. She wanted em to be friends. My point is, people should not go and get all upset, when they have not seen these two characters do anything against the rules of Cantr. I'm talking about transferring items from one char to the other. If you've not seen her do anything like this....let her alone. Let her do what she will. If she does, I believe THEN would be the time to report her, not now, when she's done nothing wrong.

Agar wrote:Throw them in Jail!

I could use the company ...

I just said that because I'm in the jail and everyone else in there is dead. I could use the company.

Besides, if they got thrown in jail, it'd be for OOC reasons, which would break the CR.

I think she was trying to be a bit humorous there, Agar.... Your poor character...

lol yes I was...and to further my last post...

Here are the rules that you all may THINK she’s broken.


1) Your characters are not automatically a family, a clan, a tribe, an army, a company, or so on - not necessarily even friends.

I need not say anything else, you have not seen her do this. Like I said before, they’ve both introduced themselves to each other, therefore, they were not actually automatically friends.


2) Your characters do not automatically know what your other characters have seen or done.

Again, I needn’t say more. She’s not done this either. Her characters wake up and sleep, just like all of yours do. Neither know what the other char’s done, whether the actual PLAYER knows it or not.


3) Similarly, a multi-location organization should not exist without some member of the organization fairly traveling from one location to the other

Has she done this either? I believe not. She’s not trying to start up an organization at all….so this is clearly not a rule she’s broken.

Those are the three parts of the capital rule. She has clearly not broken any of the three parts of the rule. THEREFORE!!! You should not report someone who has done no wrong!

But from a cooperation standpoint, it's not good RP to not only have two characters be good friends, but to have them always awake at the same time.

Basically, if we can tell that they're played by the same person (in the same basic style) purely from in-game observation, they're not RPing well, in my opinion, and suppose one asked the other to drag someone, for example. Of course the other would be awake, and because they're friends she's surely help.

Just seems a tad unethical. Not necessarily a breach, but not the sort of behavior I like to see.

EDIT: This apparently got posted to the wrong thread, so I'll put it here.

west wrote:Generally I try to avoid having more than one char in the same place at any given time. Sometimes it's unavoidable, though: there was a time about a cantr-year ago when i had two chars in Kirinn, two in Krif and two in Doryiskom. It's complicated, though, and I only do it when their individual lives lead them to those places.

If the stars aligned correctly, I could some day have 4 characters in Krif and 4 in Kwor (out of 10). I, of course, will try my hardest NOT to have that happen.

west wrote:But from a cooperation standpoint, it's not good RP to not only have two characters be good friends, but to have them always awake at the same time.

I don't alter my login schedule if I have two characters in the same town.
That's just the Players Department being whiny.

your point is seen, but...

Basically, if we can tell that they're played by the same person (in the same basic style) purely from in-game observation, they're not RPing well,

Not everyone can RP as well as any other person. This must be considered. Have you considered that certain people that play may be quite young compared to others? There is no age limit to the game, so...there WILL be "inexperienced" RP-ers....Just because they RP poorly, is that a reason to report them?

RP can be improved, and one way it can be improved is to spread your chars out a bit more.

I actually was guilty of a similar thing when I was just beginning (one of my chars got a job in a company my other char started) but that was 2 and a half real-life years ago, the other person died, (actually they're both dead by now, but the one died pretty quickly)

but my point is, it's not really ethical. I don't do it anymore, and haven't for years.

I don't really alter my login schedule if I have two chars in the same town, either, I just generally pick one to focus on (usually the one closer to the top of my list) and the other one tends to fall asleep. Not particularly good RP, but I have a life too. And to me it's better than having both of them awake at the same time.

But having both of them awake at the same time is, again, different from having them interact EVERY TIME they're awake.

I did not say she didn't have them interact EVERY time she's online. I would not know that, because I am not online every time she is, My point is simply, she's not as old as most of you, and she hasn't RP-ed as much as you all have. Yes she can improve, but...when has she had time? I am her sister, and I really don't like people assuming too much about her. She has not Rp-ed long, and I admit, she is not as good a Rp-er as all you other people, but she still does it. And she can get better at it. I just don't think people should jump to conclusions so fast and report people, when they know nothing of the person to begin with.

They may not be technically breaching right now but by becoming good friends they will almost certainly run into situations in the future where logical rp would dictate that they cooperate. I think this is why these kind of harmless seeming relationships are discouraged.

1) Your characters are not automatically a family, a clan, a tribe, an army, a company, or so on - not necessarily even friends.

I think the words "automatically" and "necessarily" should be removed from the description page because it implies that these things are possible, even allowed, as long as you don't do it immediately and it is roleplayed correctly. Which isn't true.

I thought Cantr had an age limit of 14.

I also was reprimanded for having one char help another drag which seemed harmless to me but is still cooperating. Even children understand rules and are capable of following them when they are explained. When (if) the PD contacts your sister they won't be mean to her. They've always been very nice and friendly to me. Anyone who is playing Cantr is subject to discussion on the forums so she might as well understand that is also part of the game.