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Postby SekoETC » Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:10 pm

Fritter - aka Baron F (watch out!)
Mouse (stays inside all the time)


So he has a character called Fritter. I got the impression that Baron F is a pseudonym or even an alternate personality. But -

1011-7: Fritter says: "I told Baron F not to hit you any more. He did it without me knowing...well...he didn't know any better."


The one that hurt me was the other character. So if they are two separate characters working together that's unfair. At first I didn't want to start whining because people would think I'm just trying to save my own but if it's a breach... Sounds pretty badly like a powergamer.

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And then this older case. My character did not witness it, he just saw the dragging, but later picked up a note stating the things below. The narrator ("You say:") is a person called Mouse, a name which is also on his list.


993-8: You see Dirk Gently drop a bastard sword.

993-8: Dirk Gently says: "Mouse, make notes of his confession in case we need to go
over this if anybody we can't handle shows up. You might want to tell the people
outside who may or may not have been aiding him to leave the sleepers alone. They
can take whatever drops to the ground, but they cannot speed the process along."

993-8: Dirk Gently says: "Juan is gone."

993-8: You see Dirk Gently kill Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA using a bastard
sword.

993-8: You say: "Here Dirk, give a swipe at this jerk."

993-8: You give Bastard sword to Dirk Gently

993-8: Finbar says to you: "He was back to flat-faced just before I hit him. We may
have another day or putting up with this crybaby."

993-8: Finbar says to you: "Still didn't see you do even that."

993-8: You say to Finbar: "I punched him. OOC: Screw up on my blackberry. I didn't
see you hit him."

993-8: Finbar says: "Yeah I hit him for 21%. Did you? I didn't see it."

993-7: You say: "Did you hit him? I don't see a record of it."

993-7: Finbar says: "Still a bit of life left in him. "

993-7: Finbar gives you Bastard sword.

993-7: You say: "Do the honors Finbar. Rid the world of this scum."

993-7: You give Bastard sword to Finbar

993-7: You say: "I see your notes...we do not have a character outside that
informed. It was obvious. I was watching you for almost 1 year. OOC: You are the one
breaking the CR rule. It is stupid activity like making 60000 hematite crushing
projects that will get you kicked off the game. Great RP loser."

993-7: You say: "OOC: Hey jackass. I hope you know you've broken the Capital Rule by
applying those resources to projects like that. You are going to be reported for
it."

993-7: You take 825 grams of rubber.

993-6: You say: "Shut up!"

993-6: You hurt Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA using a bare fist, who loses 0
percent strength.

993-5: Finbar says: "We figured it out because you were the only one with the
firepower to hurt the sleepers. Again, not that it matters, but we have no slaves.
Anyone who ever asked us for food was given it freely, we merely collect whatever is
on the ground to prevent fights over ownership. If you had just waited for people to
die of natural causes and then picked up whatever was there, we would never have
acted, but now that you admit to trying to run Jakara, I'm even more glad we stopped
you."

993-5: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA says: "Yeah, well you had figued it out,
before they said anything so . . . besides that, I will tell you what i did. If you
think that qualifies as as murdering idiot, so be it. There were peopel coming and
going, and a few that would sit around and steal or attack. I started sayign that we
should have a better sense of who around here is who fro securities sake. I said that
everyone should intgorduce themselves wihtin 3 days or be subject to atttack. I asked
everyone nicely to introduce themselves, and everyone did, except your slaves. I
asked regularly for about a year. None of them every siad anythign, ever did
anythihg not even a peep. I attacked them once and no repsonse, not even a whimper.
So ti was clear to us that they were not real persons, but rather slave-zombies. The
only thing I hurt was your slave-produced profits. You are welcom to kill me, in
fact, i hope you do, I just don't want you to dress it all "noble" because you are
certainly not that. "

993-5: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA says: "Well I I now is that I had
potatoes adn limestone on the gorund along with your mules, and you would come out
and take everything and go back inside your hole."

993-5: Finbar says: "And we already explained why we figured out who was killing the
sleepers, and your buddies Carter and Nelson have already said as much. Way to be a
dick."

993-5: Finbar says: "Juan, you are a murdering idiot, and your reign of evil is
over. You can speak all you want of the sleepers being mules, and perhaps they are,
but none of them work for us. I don't why you would rationally think we could
possibly need more limestone, sand, and potatoes than we have already, but I can see
that you are just searching for excuses to justify attacking those wekaer than you.
Well, congratulations, now you have run into someone stronger. "

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take an envelope.

993-4: You see an envelope being pulled to Relay Tower 4, coming from the central
area of Jakara.

993-4: You see a note being pulled from Relay Tower 4 to Jakara.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see a note being pulled from Relay Tower 4 to Jakara.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop a note.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA knocking on the door to Jakara.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA knocking on the door to Jakara.

993-4: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA says: "well that was futile."

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA hurt Dirk Gently using a
longbow.

993-4: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA hurts you using a sabre. You lose 0
percent strength. You saved 35 percent using your iron shield.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA hurt Finbar using a sabre.

993-4: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA says: "and one last thing, I put myeself
to work as you can see."

993-4: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA says: "oh, but don't be mistaken, I will
fight back!"

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop some meat.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop cooking stone.

993-4: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA says: "YOu made some comment about
enforcing the laws . . . you know so little that I am not even going to waste my
time on trying to educate you. I am sure that your limited collective brain power
will suggest that you kill me so I have resigned myself to be murdered for merely
enforcing democratically instituted laws. "

993-4: Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA says: "You have stolen my materials, you
have no basis for arressting me. A majority of those out there uspported giving your
mules planeyt of time to repsoned (almost a year) to our gentle inquiries as to their
name etc. They did not repson EVER! they were clearly not alive and posed only a
security risk, without ever acting except to perform your slave labor.
They were
zombies under your exploitive rule and we, that is right, we freed them. You are
wrong, stupid and evil. "

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take a wooden shield.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take cooking stone.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some hemp on Manufacturing
hemp skirt.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some on Spinning silk yarn.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some silk cocoons.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some hemp cloth.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take a wooden shield.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take a wooden shield.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take a wooden shield.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some leather on Manufacturing
a pair of bellows.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some leather.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some mud on Building -crap
house- (mud hut).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop cooking stone.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take cooking stone.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some meat.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some mud.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some hematite on Crushing
hematite (sledgehammer).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some hematite.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some hide on Curing hide.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some hide.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some stone on Building -Hall
of Shame- (hall).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some stone.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building -juan's
study- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building -juan's
library- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building -Juan's
conservatory- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building
-finbar's library (containing nothing but picture books)- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building
-Cheater's restroom- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building
-study2ovidCRbreaches-sealed- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building -stude
to perfect tyrany in absentia (well used)- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some wood.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building -juan's
study- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building -juan's
library- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building -Juan's
conservatory- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building
-finbar's library (containing nothing but picture books)- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA use some wood on Building
-Cheater's restroom- (cottage).

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA take some wood.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop some water.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop some stone.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop some wood.

993-4: You see Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA drop some limestone.

993-4: You ate 100 grams of your potatoes.

992-8: You see Finbar drop a note.

992-8: Finbar says: "Here is a copy nd my reply."

992-8: You see a note being pulled from Relay Tower 4 to Jakara.

992-8: You see Finbar drop a note.

992-7: You take Note -MAP OF TERRITORY SURROUNDING SIOM--updated 806--Compiled by
Armedian Koloff and Captain Jordan Moris-.

992-7: You take Note -Where to get hematite-.

992-7: You take Note -Where to get Salt-.

992-7: You take Note -Salt Journey-.

992-7: You take Note - Coastline Map - by Jenny McGrath-.

992-7: You say to Finbar: "What't it say?"

992-7: You see Finbar take a note.

992-7: You see a note being pulled to Relay Tower 4, coming from the central area of
Jakara.

992-7: You say: "I knew I'd catch you sooner or later. Every time I went out someone
else was dead. Who was sending the notes in?"

992-7: You say: "Then pick up the hammer and get working."

992-7: You say: "Juan, I want you to pick up 7500g of wood and apply it to the
extension project."

992-7: You drop Stick.

992-7: You drop Stone hammer.

992-7: You drop Stone hammer.

992-7: Finbar says: "Nah. I've got the healing foods. Keep him in here until he can
explain why he thinks it is okay to kill the sick and sleeping."

992-7: You take 2206 grams of salt.

992-7: You say to Finbar: "Should I send him back out?"

992-7: You see Finbar take some pineapples.

992-7: You see Finbar take some bananas.

992-7: You enter Relay Tower 4, where you see 3 people, leaving the central area of
Jakara.

992-7: You enter Jakara, where you see 13 people, leaving Relay Tower 4.

992-7: You say: "I'm not joking! Drop your stuff or you die."

992-7: You take A pair of bellows.

992-7: You take Blow dart pipe.

992-7: You take Iron shield.

992-7: You take Stick.

992-7: You take Stone hammer.

992-7: You take Longbow.

992-7: You take Longbow.

992-7: You take File.

992-7: You take Dung-fork.

992-7: You take Pickaxe.

992-7: You say: "Now drop your sabre and your axe. If you hit or take anything you
won't live."

992-7: You say: "You quit hitting people out there! Got it! You aren't the law
buddy!"

992-7: You enter Relay Tower 4, where you see 3 people, leaving the central area of
Jakara.

992-7: You drag Juan - KILLER OF SLEEPERS IN JAKARA from the central area of Jakara
to Relay Tower 4.

992-7: You enter Jakara, where you see 14 people, leaving Relay Tower 4.

992-7: You say: "Should I go drag him in here so he can't get away? I don't think he
can do that much damage wounded like that."




The illegal building projects is not my concern but the accusation of using mule characters to work for them. Was this thing ever looked into?
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Postby jeslange » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:53 am

Player post:
He meant Baron T. Baron F is Fritter. Mouse is my character. I have no mule characters in Jakara.

Sorry SekoETC...Why don't you just ask since you've been sending me messages anyway?


Player post:
BTW it's crappy to put my name in the subject of your post because you're pissed about your character.



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Jess's post:
Thanks for the report, Seko. The involved player has started to strive to have a CR friendly account, so I'm confident that the player's better understanding will lead the player to be fair from now on. If you suspect that that is not the case with future relations with the mentioned chars, we'll certainly take action very quickly after it's reported.

To all players: Since Cantr players are meant to be as anonymous as they wish to be, please don't post a player's name. In some cases, a player may have identified himself/herself, which can certainly make it seem fine to in turn identify that player. However, let's not identify anyone by name, even if they've identified themselves, because it can happen that a player who identified themself in some situation later wishes they had remained anonymous. Instead, let's call people "the player of...."

If anyone has identified themself and wishes to erase it as much as possible, I believe you can delete any of your own posts, or a forum moderator can delete any upon request.

Thanks
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Postby SekoETC » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:54 am

I didn't ask because you did not reply to my previous message so I figured you do not use the forums anymore. I'm not trying to revenge, just wanted to be sure. Sorry.
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Postby Revanael » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:33 pm

Quickest way to get any moderator's attention is to PM me. As long as I have my browser open - which is most of the time I'm awake, whether here or not - I'll know I've got the email about the PM.
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Postby SekoETC » Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:27 pm

Nice one Rev, I didn't change the title afterwards because I didn't know what to do with it, but changing it to "A CR Breach" after already being declared it was no such thing for real, ok that's something I would not have preferred. So let's just call this topic "The Starter was Paranoid" and get over it. I would ask you for deletion but at this point it might mess things up even more. So we must wait for the player in question to accept my apology on bringing up these ill-founded accusations. Then we can remove this topic and leaving me to be ashamed in peace.
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Postby Stan » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:37 pm

No need to apologize. It's all good! :D
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Postby Revanael » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:20 am

*sticks his tongue out at Seko, and grins*

Nope, not removing it, it stays as a reminder!
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Postby Nick » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:36 am

Stan wrote:No need to apologize. It's all good! :D

Wouldn't you publicly accepting her apology kind of annull the point of removing your name from the topic? pppssssst. I think we all know who she was talking about now. :wink:
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Postby Revanael » Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:35 pm

Topic rezzing, or what? *grins*
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Postby SekoETC » Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:50 am

It ain't my fault people are using stupid nicknames they can't even remember!
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