Signatures in notes

[PRUT]

Have you ever want to make a note which can't be falsified by any others?
For example, when You sign an agreement and don't want anybody to change it.

Now, everyone can falsify any note (copy or make another one - very similar) even if You sign it by a name of your char. What about implementing individual and unique signatures?

It may be an unique number or something other which would be unique and will help with to identify a char who signed a note.


But of course signing a note should be optional, and everyone could make a note without a signature.[/b]

[Surly]

Isn't that what the seal is for?

[Litchin_flip]

yeah but say its a time sensitive situation and you don't have time to put a seal it or even make an envelope for that matter and you just send a runner on his way but you need some way to prove it was from you...contimplate that for a little bit hahaha

[west]

In any case, seals are effectively useless in vast parts of cantr.

[Surly]

They fell victim of the newlands resource allocation, didn't they?

[Solutions Maximus]

Let's think about what it was like in RL back in the old days when people actually used notes and letters to communicate. There was no way to have a special signature that couldn't, in some way, be copied. Treason, plans, traps, etc. were written and shared in letters. However, letters could be intercepted and changed, causing major changes in events. This was a part of life. Now, sometimes a person's handwriting could be evaluated, but even that was no guarantee. It would make things a lot simpler, but the current system can enhance role-playing and can cause more interesting events.

[Litchin_flip]

Well at anyrate I am All for signatures on notes

[KVZ]

It may be an unique number or something other which would be unique and will help with to identify a char who signed a note.

I like this idea. It can give many new possiblities to game.

[west]

I like notes as they are actually. I have a few methods of authenticating them, myself

[Missy]

Signatures could already be made, if you simply used paint/scanned a photo of your own writing and sent it to pictures@cantr.net then uploaded the piccy of your chars personal sig, in the note.

It doesn't make it impossible to falsify notes, but I don't think it should be impossible to falsify them.

[PRUT]

I like notes as they are actually. I have a few methods of authenticating them, myself

Really? How?

Signatures could already be made, if you simply used paint/scanned a photo of your own writing and sent it to pictures@cantr.net then uploaded the piccy of your chars personal sig, in the note. Idea

It doesn't make it impossible to falsify notes, but I don't think it should be impossible to falsify them. Smile

Even if You add a picture with signature, and make note uneditable, there is no problem with falsifying it. You just create a new note, copy tekst (with some changes ) and copy link to a picture.

[wulf]

Indeed - and the more realistic the signature looks, the more likely it is to be accepted as genuine whether or not it's a cunning forgery!

If you want security, you'll need to start developing cryptographic systems - if not encrypting the whole message, at least including some kind of reference code that can be authenticated by those in the know.

It all depends how paranoid your characters are!

Wulf

[Nixit]

Exactly, because just in real life, one can easily forge signatures.

[The Industriallist]

Not that easily...not against a good analyst. Which most people aren't, I presume. Just sign an envelope instead. Or, for real, in-note security...cryptograpy, or some kind of hidden code phrasing is probably the way to go.

[PRUT]

Exactly, because just in real life, one can easily forge signatures.

Not as easily like in Cantr.
I don't want to encrypt my notes. I just want to have an evidence that the note is from the correct char.
How to send a letter to other location, to run up trade, when I can't trust if the note I have sent, reached correct person with no changes?
I have no choice but to walk myself and give the note myself.

If we want to promote trade, we should think about authentication of notes. Without notes (such as agreements, trade letters, offers or even stocks) there would be no advanced trade.