Reduce the hemp yarn production or give us a Cotton Picker

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Reduce the hemp yarn production or give us a Cotton Picker

Postby Sicofonte » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:27 pm

The production of string with hemp is 5 times faster than with cotton. It is unrealistic.


Not all the hemp in the plant is just fibre. To get the fibre from the hemp stalk is laborious, and that process is not covered in the "spinning hemp yarn" project.
I suggest to implement another manual process, sth like "pulping hemp", needing no tools, that turn hemp into hemp fibres (400 gr of hemp into 100 gr of hemp fibre a day), that can be spinned in the "spinning hemp yarn project" at the rate it is now (replacing "hemp" with "hemp fibre").


If not, to implement a harvesting machine for cotton (cotton picker or cotton stripper) that increase the production of cotton up to 500 or 600 gr a day would balance the situation.
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Postby Talapus » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:31 pm

I don't really see why it needs balanced. Sometimes, an imbalance is good.
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Postby Mykey » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:39 pm

I really do not see, why the cotton gin does not do what you describe the whole thing is a mystery to me...
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Postby Sicofonte » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:04 pm

Mykey wrote:I really do not see, why the cotton gin does not do what you describe the whole thing is a mystery to me...


The cotton gin does what it has to do. The issue is in...

The manual way to get fibre from the hemp is picking a fibre and tear out it from the hemp stalk, again and again and again...
And all these fibres are used in the spindle to make cotton yarn.



Talapus wrote:I don't really see why it needs balanced. Sometimes, an imbalance is good.


I see it clearly 'since there is no hemp in the islands where my chars live. Cotton or silk coccoons. To make string in that islands is 5 times more expensive than in the rest of the Cantr world, and this is bad for my idea of sailed ships ;).
But this is not the reason for avoiding the BIG imbalance. Most of the resource and programming changes I have seen are always intended to balance something (things like that this vehicle is too fast for its cost, or runs in a path and this is not realistic). The imbalances produce boredom and routine in Cantr.
And yeah, the hemp production is REALLY imbalanced.

But well, I know that there is no need to balanced it, I can wait for the motorized ships.
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Postby Sho » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:19 pm

Balancing items against each other (vehicles, tools) is necessary, else the less efficient ones would not be built at all. But imbalances between resources that mostly do the same things are harmless. They are no different from the suggested variations in resource concentration (one location can gather resources at a higher rate than another) that have been suggested.
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Postby wichita » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:03 am

Agreed. Hemp is a much more industrial fibre for rope which gives it value. The ease of proecssing makes hemp clothing of lower value when looking at it from a technical economic point of view. Cotton is also the most important and limiting ocmponent of furniture. Increasing the availability of hemp drastically devalues furniture.


To summarize, the cantrian textile industry is rather complex and interwoven and provides one of the only sources of cultural variation in the game with the exception of certain prepared foods. It would be a shame to undo this because we simply want to make rope faster.
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Postby Sicofonte » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:46 am

Mmmm.... yeah, rejected! 8)
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Postby wichita » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:10 pm

Sicofonte even said it himself. 8)
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Postby Diego » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:49 am

Boy, if this and race were implemented, we'd be flooded by nazis trying to make black Cantrians work the Cotton Picker.
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Postby Sicofonte » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:52 pm

If race and cotton picker are not implemented, we'd flooded by cantrians trying to make cantrians work in the cotton fields.

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Ok, if we put some colors, it will be funnier.


PS: maybe we could see Green cantrians forcing Grey cantrians to do whatever... fucking racists... xD
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