Cantr II Discussion Forum

Missed 1:

(semi)
Object: radio vacuum tube
Days needed: 2
Raw materials needed: 1000 grams of glass beads
25 grams of iron
10 grams of wood
Objects:
Tools needed: pair of pliers
Vacuum Tube Mould

The rest have been listed on page 1. *wonders how lazy everyone besides Sho is...*

More questions:

Is "Vacuum Tube Mould" really capitalized all the way through like that?
Is it a "vacuum tube" or a "radio vacuum tube"?
The old radios aren't in "Electronics"?
Is it a "pair of pliers" or "pliers"?

Everything I copied was word for word...capital for capital.

All radios (finished models, including the medium) are in electronics.

Their wiring and bits (i.e. radio vacuum tube) are semis, whilst the tools are tools. I think the RD may have made several capitalization and name errors...as they often do.

Everything is going in the wiki as I think it ought to be. It's fuzzy and probably wrong, but I'm not going to make broken links just because people make typos. RD can look over and fix stuff (either in the wiki or in Cantr) when everything is more or less in place, which should be maybe 15 minutes from now.

Also, I seem to be missing a page for a "radio receiver case", or whatever that is you use to make a radio receiver.

All semis:


bject: long range radio receiver case
Days needed: 3
Raw materials needed: 1500 grams of wood
Objects:
Tools needed: carving knife

Object: radio receiver case
Days needed: 3
Raw materials needed: 800 grams of wood
Objects:
Tools needed: carving knife


Object: Vehicle radio receiver case
Days needed: 3
Raw materials needed: 500 grams of iron
Objects:
Tools needed: soldering Iron

I think all the data is in the wiki now; old radios have also been cleaned up a bit. Everything is ready for RD to drop in the ranges. Look it over if you like (http://cantr.net/mwiki/index.php/Category:Electronics, http://cantr.net/mwiki/index.php/Category:Semi-finished_products and http://cantr.net/mwiki/index.php/Category:Tools are good places to start).

Why is the "long range radio receiver case" only used in transmitters? Might want to change that somehow.

Thanks Sho, I added the values and changed the case to "long range radio case".
I'm not sure why platinum wire wouldn't be able to be used interchangeably with the old as in the database, they have the same name, exactly how both a steel and bone knife can be used in the same project.

The problem is that apparently the radios say they require the gold wire. I don't know how it's actually set up under the hood, but this is confusing and the radios should be changed to say they require "long range transmitter wire" (as I've put it in the wiki).

Vacuum tube mould - are you SURE Vacuum tube mould should be in tools? Is this item like hammer or stone ingot? Or more likely - machinery like oven?

Yes, because machines cannot create objects except with special, specific programming. The vacuum tube is made by pouring molten glass in to the mould, which also requires a kiln to be present.
So the mould is a tool to create the vacuum tube.

Does it have to be a kiln, or will a small kiln also work?

I don't believe there is an or argument for hasobject rules, so it's just a kiln for now. Works basically how an anvil does now for weapons.

Sho, if you don't want to play, couldn't you just keep one character that just sits and harvests food so you don't have to rely on others getting you the relevant information? It would be a lot easier for you.

Creepyguyinblack: How do anvils (bronze and iron) work, then?

Doug R.: It would. But I don't really have a choice. If you really really have to know why, ask me privately.

The different anvils are interchangeable because they have the same name in the database, and don't have any machine tasks associated with them. However, small kiln and kiln have different machine tasks, and I don't know what effect having them with the same name would have. I wouldn't mind being corrected though.