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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:26 am
by wichita
It is a dealer incentive program. Every brand new car comes with a free tank of gas! Actually, I think I am cool with that idea for some reason. It wouldn't be too much stranger than a lot of other Cantr metaphysical phenomena.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:16 pm
by Nalaris
Yeah, very true. Fuel can only work if:

Cars become easier to make before the fuel is implemented (like how gather rates went up before consumption rates for uncooked food). Little by little, it should go down, and the fuel shouldn't be a problem until a while after the car costs go down (maybe as much as a full cantr year).

When fuel is implemented make a full tank last several trips.

DO NOT implement car deterioration. Tool/weapon deterioration is bad enough as it is.


Just my 2 cents.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:30 pm
by Chris Johnson
wichita wrote:It is a dealer incentive program. Every brand new car comes with a free tank of gas! Actually, I think I am cool with that idea for some reason. It wouldn't be too much stranger than a lot of other Cantr metaphysical phenomena.


Hmmmm .. I can picture the pile of dirt motorcycles built just to siphon of the petrol for the King's Limo in that Gas/Oil poor zone . :twisted:

But yes, I also think this is a good idea, no stranger than automatic iron locks on wooden ships .

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:33 pm
by Ahoyhoy
That's 2 ideas that will be accepted that I started the thread. IN YOUR FACE DAD. YOU TOLD ME I WAS WORTHLESS I DON'T SEE YOU WITH 2 ACCEPTED SUGGESTIONS.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:03 am
by creepyguyinblack
Chris, I think that the way gas tanks will be implemented is that the fuel within will be unremovable, eliminating the magical fuel reserve to be used in other vehicles.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:39 am
by WojD
Why unremovable? You can take fuel from tank of any wehicle in RL :) You need only piece of pipe ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:53 pm
by creepyguyinblack
Perhaps something like that could be added, even requiring a rubber hose/rube or something, but I think that as long as motor vehicles come with a "free" amount of fuel, it should be unremovable for game balance purposes.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:16 pm
by Nalaris
On the contrary, it makes a Cantrealistic way for fuel dry area's to get fuel, helping to balance out the "Oh no, there's no fuel except for on the other side of the known world and we're a car dependant community!" thing.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:54 pm
by Marian
I'm pretty sure every town has access to at least some kind of vegetables, so fuel shouldn't be that hard to get, even if its not the best kind. It'd be easier then making an entire new vehicle at least.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:54 pm
by Hellzon
And if not vegetables, then wood. If indeed all vegetables work as some (albeit bad) fuel, then everyone but the mountain and beach villages will be fine. ;)

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:31 am
by Agar
There are low(er) emision vehicles that run on propane, which is in game already. Is that being looked into at all, or is this just a ploy to make oil barons?

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:08 am
by wichita
Trust me, we are looking into all fuel sources, and we are trying our best to make sure that characters can reasonably have access to some sort of fuel. I think I have posted that at least three times now, perhaps eventually people will get the message. (Wishful thinking, I know. :D )

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:19 am
by sanchez
I still want an alternative fuel option available, like solar, that's expensive to build but doesn't need to be refilled.

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:49 am
by Agar
sanchez wrote:I still want an alternative fuel option available, like solar, that's expensive to build but doesn't need to be refilled.


You see a man in his thirties add some stone to manufacturing the Flintstonemobile "Rocky Road"

Heard of bicycles? Or the delusion of them coding riding animals? Or metaless vehicles? Or a walking stick?

They'll do what they want, and IM each other in condesending tones about us bitching over a game we play for free, and we'll have to do what they want. That's the way the game works.

Jos Elkink wrote:I want fuel because it can lead to an interesting permanent industry - not only to build up, but to maintain something, while it will require resources relatively rare, so you get interesting interregional trade in a large area. I want oil-states-like situations.


Jos Elkink wrote:...I want things to develop in a way that stimulate this international trade and that supports specialisation and industrial chains rather than individual companies doing everything from food gathering to steel production to building ships, only to support their own staff.


Jos Elkink wrote:And as long petrol will be something that creates some regions to become very rich and others less so. I don't think it's much of a problem is some areas can develop an interesting vehicle industry while others can't - over time, the latter are bound to trade with the former.


Who's game are we playing? Who lays down the law? Who can ignore everything, anything that is said? The man that wrote the game, the man buys the time on the servers, the man that has churches to himself in his game.

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:04 am
by olaf
Uh... No-one forced you to keep playing... :?